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From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] reboot(2) system call
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:37:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfqQZdrDSH40dDfr5A6cSb75Pg-JAb6u-2FzpPTQWdSn+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210130223154.GP4227@mcvoy.com>

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:32 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 09:27:10AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> >
> > >The lore I was told at the time was that you alwasy ran three and that
> it
> > >didn't matter if they were all on the same line with semicolons or not
> > >because of the very fact that the second one would block.
> >
> > What I was taught was:
> >
> >       % sync
> >       % sync
> >       % sync
> >
> > and never:
> >
> >       % sync; sync; sync
> >
> > The theory was that by waiting for the shell prompt each time, it gave
> the
> > buffer pool enough time to be flushed.
>
> I was taught the exact same thing and for the same reasons.
>

Yes. There's no actual code in the System V or earlier kernels to block any
of the sync calls. At least none I could find in examining all the 'leaked
sources' I could find on the internet.

sync just schedules I/O. There's nothing in the system call that waits for
anything: it just goes through the list of all non-busy buffers calling the
driver's strategy routine and marking the buffer as busy.

Later systems, like SunOS did have a wait, but that was a later addition,
done a half a dozen different ways. BSD had one that waited for a while,
but gave up after some tens of seconds...

Warner

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-30 22:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-27 18:57 Warner Losh
2020-07-28  0:36 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-28  4:06 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-07-28 16:35   ` Win Treese
2020-07-28 13:11 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2021-01-27  6:01 ` Greg A. Woods
2021-01-30 22:27   ` Dave Horsfall
2021-01-30 22:31     ` Larry McVoy
2021-01-30 22:37       ` Warner Losh [this message]
2021-02-02  2:20     ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-02  2:30       ` Warner Losh
2021-02-02 20:30         ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-02  3:35       ` Dave Horsfall

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