From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d30109c3 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A72CAA19D7; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:59:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C511A19D4; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:58:57 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b=XfarpXGM; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 59E13A19D4; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:58:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-it0-f43.google.com (mail-it0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0797A19D3 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:58:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 188-v6so12379680ita.5 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=V74/IdAnP1xLPsNx/KNuluTeu2l9IiZb3eVwnYF9SXU=; b=XfarpXGMxQz+Gcj7e3l7PiVWTPitVz80FjK/HE+F5xFUblLrG5cv90RW1SO6Wl0Y1o XcARFWVjyp9s/yhdWaT8T3AQh8c05lc8b8CAh6KYuoIO75ZEwTAkdA2RwueVMqt2aET+ CiUFmhQwtTzhdSBHlRNhp02JIAbO3SxaF/aaFdYm+DNy5jAo26WX/vgyB5WRotcshB/v VqmQPGi7kSls+g4YXdqXmEPaSW7v0bcwoaTALDsVYxFA8XhwM3EKK8GFSSpJohKW9tS1 jH61fgTUSawhFHCEwf5pwWYYdOKOjChJ7szqTxRmDjOQA1Fx1oGexu6ea5pdCTFASdCy rgnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V74/IdAnP1xLPsNx/KNuluTeu2l9IiZb3eVwnYF9SXU=; b=Q/YCjV9NBtwfEAvZ5b2ASVaw1sHUpOCMDQ6qjCSA/2cn+BJUcEXApRarpdUO38NR9l VIYJcpciaMnVUKgWq8IdUrx+sOPhYRoq4GR9OaGNLD4yhPcOcuyB362EENVlV9UHq3nP p91npgCA8gXgbx2kHD7+lxs17p6F536lyhkr5fH8RjqFTjq3L/7ENygo6w63kNOxaqE4 x2R6XXoHRoxBAbOhPQfINU1Ma1fGOKKm1op1zqSTWkfoyfM7WmnR/k4/2DpcjEUcXFrY 1RCLK3zdvkTOhziSKLa1/myqvuYHmaQsT6vPch29cN5CDz1d2F5XRDaa7NR3HvO9EGHp 6O7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2XmQMF2HuzxNTuQxyP+enMOKY0ffmjZg9DvHW3wNDVRG33m9Xj Hck4ANR7PFQGjpUuoEXYKVOQFJYtXPdyidqlJ4wy+A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIIDbM6S0rk31+e4k0Z8b1jQDq5H0rGxxiW/EFRVdjXZL4OA+Ln80glMAENYRtScRvlNgzHfGZSAYptH9oKn7M= X-Received: by 2002:a24:5b81:: with SMTP id g123-v6mr9532059itb.1.1529333935109; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:5945:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 07:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <20180618145127.BB45318C08A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20180618145127.BB45318C08A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:58:53 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xP0OTx8_3tWxUwGO4ocT0pNdHh4 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f2248d056eebcdeb" Subject: Re: [TUHS] core X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000f2248d056eebcdeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > I'm not sure how well Dave understood the issue of path selection scaling > at > the time he proposed it - it was very early on, '78 or so - since we didn't > understand path selection then as well as we do now. IIRC, I think he was > mostly was interested in it as a way to avoid having to have an asssignment > authority. The attraction for me was that it was easier to ensure that the > names had the needed topological aspect. I always thought the domain names were backwards, but that's because I wanted command completion to work on them. I have not reevaluated this view, though, since the very early days of the internet and I suppose completion would be less useful than I'd originally supposed because the cost to get the list is high or administratively blocked (tell me all the domains that start with, in my notation, "com.home" when I hit in a fast, easy way). Warner --000000000000f2248d056eebcdeb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.m= it.edu> wrote:
I'm not = sure how well Dave understood the issue of path selection scaling at
the time he proposed it - it was very early on, '78 or so - since we di= dn't
understand path selection then as well as we do now. IIRC, I think he was mostly was interested in it as a way to avoid having to have an asssignment=
authority. The attraction for me was that it was easier to ensure that the<= br> names had the needed topological aspect.

I = always thought the domain names were backwards, but that's because I wa= nted command completion to work on them. I have not reevaluated this view, = though, since the very early days of the internet and I suppose completion = would be less useful than I'd originally supposed because the cost to g= et the list is high or administratively blocked (tell me all the domains th= at start with, in my notation, "com.home" when I hit <tab> = in a fast, easy way).

Warner=C2=A0

=
--000000000000f2248d056eebcdeb--