From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 17705 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2020 05:38:37 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 14 Apr 2020 05:38:37 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2F98E9C73F; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:38:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C18A93DD1; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:38:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="uo+SL7kU"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D7FD493D5D; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:38:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f45.google.com (mail-qv1-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FD4593D3C for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2020 15:38:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f45.google.com with SMTP id p19so5660218qve.0 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:38:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ijx/DNv1UEkdR+Cj+XTLa2/ASsieXF45+cqZuaCn4nE=; b=uo+SL7kULxEOt4OuCMIlD/bfdtLuZ6xlS+OTOOlapDKxFhRwsagjla5PVTakKgev4e g3H4zuREnU2iHk2ZB/XNCr9eECkE+CsGFzLyxqWkLRxFJ97b35sWJFocGY7qwOG3AW1a 3YprYFEyP37/+rWq2gldKPShf7OWab5E32DwVxo4vMZpoVjrBZusCZTv0OcToBLYlWHk 7GxAxPPq14jEy5r6qKSMeUjbiSxrnMEMx3vCUFg/MHEC4TTO7c333U+0Ecnm4lvzFC1H Mbl4X3j4TlsdRSa7NoNRwwOFxq1VbcwBXpQGSyqfou88yxfz8JFQkVUWPnBpwZRkjDxm xo6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ijx/DNv1UEkdR+Cj+XTLa2/ASsieXF45+cqZuaCn4nE=; b=KXSGPzxOe2vWGsgAyvQpnctEx6WODedrZvKGGkEFuwZCTPu0SuOcIqc5mktULyp8EQ cH25f+P35fGFIsmJK7215/+z7KNFNp1lxDD8FIkyWKoL4dJj6SEn+y3Y35DXwemTwRIk 55c7IU4DqnAxKnlnAX7K9+4whqMqJY9XzSqpOREzh55HGhC0fUawPk9dhzGnM0BRAqL/ jpqUU17TAVs2AJDAndYIp6JOhTHhDdujn5/05VgXzzkTanjYWi7EAM3fZbp49ByCkWyE KdHlZYvI7lzFpHetbd9zN6eY2hHWa78M09x3xhGI3zii/wgj1x6PL53H3ic/+uLDTsIT 8t1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub8+GhKFoSA5W4isBEot5Ni4nh+zW1j/YvZBuzz0gAG52E9GwkA 0qX/kGmbzrZsPnP7RqBB8RLg7LrzBZllZo/S6/VZjw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIGgtVZmEKkkJM9pkb64diVOqOn6cbX76VQpBF9v0CCwSgG8ySrK+u5NuT32GsICkgV/W+kEHKvhLkuz0oZah0= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:f8cf:: with SMTP id h15mr4880781qvo.22.1586842692702; Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:38:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202004140213.03E2DHF1002571@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <20200414053024.GA67339@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20200414053024.GA67339@eureka.lemis.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:38:00 -0600 Message-ID: To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000003680505a3399bf8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] First book on Unix for general readership X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society , Doug McIlroy Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000003680505a3399bf8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 11:31 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 13 April 2020 at 22:13:17 -0400, Doug McIlroy wrote: > > > > Those were the only two that were published as trade books. I still use > > the 10th Ed regularly. The 7th Ed was a debacle. The publisher didn't > > bother to send us galleys because they had printed straight from troff. > > It turned out they did not have the full troff character set, and put > > an @ sign in place of each missing character. The whole print run was > > done before we saw a copy. Not knowing whether they ever fixed it, I'd > > be interested to hear whether or not the botch made it to bookstores. > > OK, I've dug out my copies. Two volumes, published by CBS College > publishing, aka Holt, Rinehart and Winston in 1982, both titled "UNIX > Programmer's Manual". Volume 1 (ISBN 0-03-061742-1) was the man > pages, and volume 2 (ISBN 0-03-061743-X) was the supplementary docs, > starting with =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=937th Edition UNIX =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80= =9D Summary=C3=A2=E2=82=AC , dated September 6, 1978. > They have perforated, 3-hole punched pages, clearly intended to be > torn out and put into a three-ring binder. > > I've skimmed through both of them, and I can't find any obvious > typesetting errors. "Typesetting Mathematics" shows some quite > complicated equations. And in the quick reference in volume 1, all > the troff special characters seem right, even up to less common > characters such as \(bs. Is there anything specific that I should > look for? Scans available if they would help. > Mine are like that too. Maybe it was just wrong for the first printing? Warner Greg > -- > Sent from my desktop computer. > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. 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On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 11:31 PM Greg 'groggy' L= ehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
On Monday, 13 April 2020 at 22:13:17 = -0400, Doug McIlroy wrote:
>
> Those were the only two that were published as trade books. I still us= e
> the 10th Ed regularly. The 7th Ed was a debacle. The publisher didn= 9;t
> bother to send us galleys because they had printed straight from troff= .
> It turned out they did not have the full troff character set, and put<= br> > an @ sign in place of each missing character. The whole print run was<= br> > done before we saw a copy. Not knowing whether they ever fixed it, I&#= 39;d
> be interested to hear whether or not the botch made it to bookstores.<= br>
OK, I've dug out my copies.=C2=A0 Two volumes, published by CBS College=
publishing, aka Holt, Rinehart and Winston in 1982, both titled "UNIX<= br> Programmer's Manual".=C2=A0 Volume 1 (ISBN 0-03-061742-1) was the = man
pages, and volume 2 (ISBN 0-03-061743-X) was the supplementary docs,
starting with =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=937th Edition UNIX =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80= =9D Summary=C3=A2=E2=82=AC , dated September 6, 1978.
They have perforated, 3-hole punched pages, clearly intended to be
torn out and put into a three-ring binder.

I've skimmed through both of them, and I can't find any obvious
typesetting errors.=C2=A0 "Typesetting Mathematics" shows some qu= ite
complicated equations.=C2=A0 And in the quick reference in volume 1, all the troff special characters seem right, even up to less common
characters such as \(bs.=C2=A0 Is there anything specific that I should
look for?=C2=A0 Scans available if they would help.
<= /div>

Mine are like that too. = Maybe it was just wrong for the first printing?

=
Warner

Greg
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