From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30055 invoked from network); 10 May 2022 20:44:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 May 2022 20:44:16 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 93EA19BC22; Wed, 11 May 2022 06:44:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3E9BA52; Wed, 11 May 2022 06:43:33 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.b="wro0oG7N"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1326A9BA52; Wed, 11 May 2022 06:43:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f47.google.com (mail-vs1-f47.google.com [209.85.217.47]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79EFA9BA39 for ; Wed, 11 May 2022 06:43:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f47.google.com with SMTP id z144so18092303vsz.13 for ; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BhJcLHh5A+xUfDDLPpspSThAISd8tWDGoaJaLL7s8s0=; b=wro0oG7NU3FJp0bIKwJ6DcBnqDatr4acRtcVUassvlbBnkguannOM41X/gAay3/qG7 2PohXb3NMc2ZSuyZQxZjE5Cz2IHtx0pLDPxd1pDhAWjRMcdaCY63z03XHBo572ZuOYZ3 r0d/OPfz4SsIfSnFfQGmQfkoUMufGACIydPqBG+qV0T/mzVnJ2HCUap0wPVLnCRofkwU 284q+Ti22sRRc2ltbHTA5SMVy2T7hZpMClkiAQS2WB/6ojcxN5k/1VOOTzYHRJbGM6yC WL0q5CM97lQxFgft0aWsJtfyoAGjjNtOYQyl7VPT6p44UGfC4K2mmIi3e9WIsNlcqG01 z5VQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BhJcLHh5A+xUfDDLPpspSThAISd8tWDGoaJaLL7s8s0=; b=IzRByeZcbb6wZTeoIr9ErLX6+zVJvM5ACLAaKk22H4LkPtSJUDfjkGjVozHO7IpA/8 8WegWfFlVdf03+BFBlR+ZQea0QIshaSfFnzp6yYfcmSlgs9jeLJYB7XS09ezmCKjPAai e97ynw4nuwh9TVPrwtZnTbsTdllP1bEKye3hmBQ3D+XqnGyene2yPPjPyrWCzV6AMRew VR7UmRBNtUY0JLMjdRms0vTXfwgqMqz32QXMcqPtJkFZoGhF60qQ7ca2ECkSA6LqUNu1 VeJRcPTB7Y2WMujU9ACb99qiBYtzeMW/jdLEaQilh7rH2Pgd0Q2hR94C608mHoFLZUeW TB3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ltG9Wk/v5rOkXuTDwEesCj3WiFzBw5q+Pe3HLCUCGobavnurX HpS2L4mviP743bRdAKknhDaIQww/GKUubBetNcVLUFIWxOk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy0ma6LMFq7e0biYewRckFp7hlwBLAdM54aOG9zUMHFhMomTeNzeBtzW1mIqAxHwNSCaVkW+Zese9ocbch7J+0= X-Received: by 2002:a67:c510:0:b0:32c:b758:5a5a with SMTP id e16-20020a67c510000000b0032cb7585a5amr12399555vsk.50.1652215408442; Tue, 10 May 2022 13:43:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <57977CE7-DDCC-4861-BBD2-843B9B9F51C2@ronnatalie.com> <1505232b-86bd-0d65-52c7-c8d19bd0663c@mhorton.net> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 14:43:17 -0600 Message-ID: To: Richard Salz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000834efd05deae60a2" Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000834efd05deae60a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 1:35 PM Richard Salz wrote: > Per wikipedia (FWIW), V7M was for PDP-11; Ultrix was the first VAX unix > project and based on 4.2BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix > At some point, Unix V7M was rebranded as Ultrix-11 and pulled in a lot from the BSD releases (2.9 or 2.10) to get TCP/IP networking onto the PDP-11. I don't think DEC ever shipped pure AT&T binaries. The V7M was a modified version of V7, with most of the modifications in the kernel to fix a few bugs with buffer handling, and also make it run on all the different PDP-11 models. All the sources to V7, V7M and the last Ultrix-11 version are in TUHS for people to peruse... Warner --000000000000834efd05deae60a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 1:35 PM Richa= rd Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Per wikipedia (FWIW), V7M was for PDP-11;= Ultrix was the first VAX unix project and based on 4.2BSD.=C2=A0 https://en.wiki= pedia.org/wiki/Ultrix

At some point, Unix V7M was rebranded as Ultrix-11 and pulled in a lot fro= m the BSD releases (2.9 or 2.10) to get TCP/IP
networking onto th= e PDP-11. I don't think DEC ever shipped pure AT&T binaries. The V7= M was a modified=C2=A0version of V7,
with most of the modificatio= ns in the kernel to fix a few bugs with buffer handling, and also make it r= un on all the different
PDP-11 models.

A= ll the sources to V7, V7M and the last Ultrix-11 version are in TUHS for pe= ople to peruse...
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Warner
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