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I've never been close enough to verify the odiferous trait... Warner Warner > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" > To "Clem Cole" > Cc "Alan Coopersmith" ; "Marc Rochkind" > ; tuhs@tuhs.org > Date 6/26/24, 9:11:00=E2=80=AFPM > Subject [TUHS] Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) > Standards Body Selection) > > >On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 20:44:12 -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > >> rms had nothing to do with the name posix. I have no idea where that > >> comment came from. > > > >At the very least, from rms himself: > >https://stallman.org/articles/posix.html > >There's a reference to this page in the Wikipedia page on POSIX. > > > >> The p1003 committee for Ieee was the portable operating system > standard and > >> at the time adding ix was the norm. POSIX became the term we all use= d > to > >> refer to the work we doing. Rms was not involved in any way > > > >rms suggests that he was involved in the committee? Not true? Maybe > >a different, related committee? > > > >Greg > >-- > >Sent from my desktop computer. > >Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > >See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > >This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > >reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php > --000000000000f3f45f061bd60431 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 8:12=E2=80=AFPM Ron Natalie <= ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:
=
RMS is an odiferous pedophile.
Every time I was within six feet of him I needed to go shower.

Despit his ma= ny legit accomplishments, he likes to amplify what he's done and take u= ndo credit...

I've n= ever been close enough to verify the odiferous trait...

Warner

Warner=C2=A0


------ Original Message ------
>From "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
To "Clem Cole" <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc "Alan Coopersmith" <alan.coopersmith@oracle.com>; "Marc Rochkind"
<mrochkind@gmail.com>; tuhs@tuhs.org
Date 6/26/24, 9:11:00=E2=80=AFPM
Subject [TUHS] Origin of the name POSIX (was: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX)
Standards Body Selection)

>On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 at 20:44:12 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
>>=C2=A0 rms had nothing to do with the name posix.=C2=A0 I have no i= dea where that
>>=C2=A0 comment came from.
>
>At the very least, from rms himself:
>https://stallman.org/articles/posix.html<= br> >There's a reference to this page in the Wikipedia page on POSIX. >
>>=C2=A0 The p1003 committee for Ieee was the portable operating syst= em standard and
>>=C2=A0 at the time adding ix was the norm.=C2=A0 POSIX became the t= erm we all used to
>>=C2=A0 refer to the work we doing.=C2=A0 Rms was not involved in an= y way
>
>rms suggests that he was involved in the committee?=C2=A0 Not true?=C2= =A0 Maybe
>a different, related committee?
>
>Greg
>--
>Sent from my desktop computer.
>Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key.
>See complete headers for address and phone numbers.
>This message is digitally signed.=C2=A0 If your Microsoft mail program<= br> >reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-= MUA.php
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