From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6134 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2022 17:19:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Jun 2022 17:19:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B8340D3F; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 03:19:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe33.google.com (mail-vs1-xe33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e33]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5827C40D3E for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 03:19:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe33.google.com with SMTP id j39so6838197vsv.11 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:19:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/Tffyaljeu3m+ehX52yxtJQPARwo1XKOqqN7TFQuHAM=; b=ZkzuJwiPdBFw5o6dIX60UYmnzECE/I2pSDQffZaTeEKC9DeFDQtp7Kqz3nvMPYH8Ud vcYxnNSgfExHYTwB7q5llnAU6YkMO72ZBtOclRXDb9ETwWHzGR13kDa5FO/Ppf7HXXU5 aTSC5FhpEDoyg2nEVa15U1mMDzvWQNu5abhDLOkDnSprr3oYi07Pk8sgTrKiiCAjJUnN XgMSy/NY4R5awDqgy2hHwgrlPrfPOhZhe8iuDhjtd1JZG6casT87G+r+ouU5cDfbGEvS 2nZm1mgGjQL+aUj5w9CSK71KpwQUKtg7W8lLRZDRIPgJ10NpGwImvbOuXCacLH6yC+To wYKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/Tffyaljeu3m+ehX52yxtJQPARwo1XKOqqN7TFQuHAM=; b=ocguY2VUcArXZOyKa/feC4kTl8/xo/jmDMxyVIMsRLAsjG6f0fc/I7s/uqU9odwPb8 t5U9wBt8mpk451q9SL47zPimGKwl1Z0pqHEm9ZEjZuMig9a7H8oCNZ2P0Kc3nAP675Vk MHJrwjGknGiSL/52PI9CwvwacDOm9r2XMHYTTJqfgx3URN6s6CPVkeCl2tBUPBnLprov ulRkar3m/QLeNVplji+oqmUzv9t4CR6/jfMQHBFeDgPkzq9eNNd+tW0KW5t4GTNoKbYc b4isDCxDppn/QlcV2RhuErPGH6za7tzo3C6rShFOitz53BjDOYavRRe6F7s/ubkyCtlz vPUw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+L7NGGsNKpGvedNh42UYrQ6KSTvljaSDr5vbUqC94/EPV2QGBh QVjO8q2wXagpgTRM9f3UTo+sZorEnlxE3DHkkqONJg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1v5Bh9OU7Z4K7FTu++XgWqugp6QyDUtVi6QCYGKQA/NGzLK+heBDICVV15X1Y5WVloEBxZY/qdua9dLsTdzLE4= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f3d0:0:b0:34b:b52d:d676 with SMTP id j16-20020a67f3d0000000b0034bb52dd676mr6682064vsn.6.1655572746149; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <33F19BA1-6F43-4B0A-AC9F-D57FBB30675E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 11:18:55 -0600 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006f32bc05e1bc11cc" Message-ID-Hash: A7UFMO2LRRSTCWFXASZRK7MZM7YFPNQE X-Message-ID-Hash: A7UFMO2LRRSTCWFXASZRK7MZM7YFPNQE X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Douglas McIlroy , TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000006f32bc05e1bc11cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are these systems bootable? I see all the source, but recall previous discussions about how bootstrapping them was tricky, or at least involved a large number of steps, each of which wasn't bad, but the whole path wasn't well mapped out. For V[67] we at least have boot tapes from back in the day, and V5 has a bootable disk image... Warner On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 10:58 AM Clem Cole wrote: > TUHS Source Archive BTL Research Distributions > > you should find them all. > =E1=90=A7 > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:13 AM Adam Thornton wrote= : > >> Could users outside Bell Labs actually get their hands on post-v7 >> Research Unixes? >> >> It was always my impression that The Thing You Could Get From The Phone >> Company, after v7, was System III or System V. Obviously it's not >> surprising that Research Unix features from later versions ended up in >> SysV, but did anyone actually learn about them from v8-v10, or just by w= ay >> of SysV ? >> >> Was there some (legal) mechanism for the post-v7 Unixes to get out into >> people's hands? >> >> Adam > > --0000000000006f32bc05e1bc11cc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are these systems bootable? I see all the source, but= recall previous discussions
about how bootstrapping them was tri= cky, or at least involved a large number of
steps, each of which = wasn't bad, but the whole path wasn't well mapped out.
Fo= r V[67] we at least have boot tapes from back in the day, and V5 has a boot= able
disk image...

Warner

On Sat, Jun 18,= 2022 at 10:58 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.= com> wrote:
<= a href=3D"https://streaklinks.com/BF0jaowo6HdJanOkuwoN8MED/https%3A%2F%2Fww= w.tuhs.org%2FArchive%2FDistributions%2FResearch%2F" target=3D"_blank">TUHS = Source Archive BTL Research Distributions you should find them all.
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=E1=90=A7

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:13 AM Adam T= hornton <athorn= ton@gmail.com> wrote:
Could users outside Bell Labs actually get their hands on post= -v7 Research Unixes?

It was always my impression that The Thing You Could Get From The Phone Com= pany, after v7, was System III or System V.=C2=A0 Obviously it's not su= rprising that Research Unix features from later versions ended up in SysV, = but did anyone actually learn about them from v8-v10, or just by way of Sys= V ?

Was there some (legal) mechanism for the post-v7 Unixes to get out into peo= ple's hands?

Adam
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