From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 31579 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2020 22:29:46 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2020 22:29:46 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 218839D5BB; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:29:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83579CD87; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:29:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="MztHhILr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 244AA9CD87; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:29:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com (mail-qk1-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 397149BD9B for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:29:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id d8so11321748qka.2 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 15:29:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=XiT2LsC/7deh1xhT/JsvIaQ3scsxWjwJUfRSO7auR1Q=; b=MztHhILrcDB1Ss7Ix1BH6iSH42mic+uuoIDfFfEc88D9NeUXJRAAa6ljcvVYurlLZJ q+coPpsCiw7dLpa6/z8KRTooOW6Iju0Ui1CMc0ifhoaPY7CGew1jkjrOneSsJA4Ay37/ yyFqTpH5vZOffc7t+BaL1sEVgT66xgIQ9y1AgMzfuaYP2/pQxiSxhIwc2xiaN5Obxpcu dQYe1ZPgDuoNajpDLqbor/NzpKbCqDDYOuxLry/BcKcS/vd/S9IRbT/5L/osILw2FCxa AJ7synXWtVc2dC9/7QUFjLsS+6qxHY9Z2K8sCyyn0bcpeUhAYjWQWRAkPQY2j1AVh/Qt kc6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XiT2LsC/7deh1xhT/JsvIaQ3scsxWjwJUfRSO7auR1Q=; b=IIVugyHvOEfnAk9pZssOcpNg05Zi8cpo81MffVJ6J9SecCLjQzEC0H4F3eshehlWRs B/lx1jwd0+tuLekP7D4mmqLPBTy1+xFPK4t+OQ++Tc1pcY6xV4rZ+KDV7iFht5QA92hw OBz6p4kvffMy+PoT+8lRh5jVsa5XaD8olNpea84wWtHp/2z/c4Eoced26ZCJ0tNfFsSb QfR6hll2o+D3sPMlWynGRmavPT5o+V2ZXYuo3j6XUMZnoeoXutOEx/CSpK21zlMFML1/ U1frW9yhPV+DiGHg2JZ/Wwvh0Tv4g+lDarGvg6lbsZQnq6Su5QZYAxbz29EjC14YmQtg WRKw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2Uns0+wItalNE6i/edNBhjjghpSlsqpYiIzH09A4NIzz9tG4Jc GFMDYI2NcBjK6tavg0mBbPolspaB0OIOTrpSGilWIg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vuD+vDtS5qtufCp5oGRz17CjlV9AHlWC8Gmnf5gCzr90KFRi026ZzMaRIDZoB5kwsCskpTx+DcHAX5OUpEQfZs= X-Received: by 2002:a37:7287:: with SMTP id n129mr14285110qkc.380.1584829751956; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 15:29:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5eef9b07-7f22-d9c9-78a3-bdb78379cc76@mhorton.net> <257E3A63-C939-45A1-8AD8-FC6FFB4B4E46@cheswick.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 16:29:00 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000652a3c05a164ee43" Subject: Re: [TUHS] I made a tar tape X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000652a3c05a164ee43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 2:47 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, William Cheswick wrote: > > > Ron made an insult generator. You can get ten fresh samples at > > > > https://cheswick.com/insult > > Neat! I vaguely remember a similar one posted to Usenet ages ago; ah, > those were the days. > > > It has about 42 bits of entropy, generating a nice password that is > > probably safe-for-work, unless you work in a very unusual place. A lot > > of people use cuss words as passwords. > > I read somewhere (Schneier?) that "shocking nonsense" makes for good > passphrases; easily remembered, and hard to guess. And yes, I know about > that XKCD cartoon... > "play city carrot is a toy store in tokyo" was my pass phrase more than a decade ago.... Not quite nonsense, though, because the Japanese like to use English words for how they look or sound rather than what they mean. Much like people here choose tattoos for how they look, not quite understanding they just got "katchup queen gerbil" emblazoned on their lower back... Warner --000000000000652a3c05a164ee43 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 2:47 PM Dave = Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>= wrote:
On Sat, = 21 Mar 2020, William Cheswick wrote:

> Ron made an insult generator.=C2=A0 You can get ten fresh samples at >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://cheswick.com/insult

Neat!=C2=A0 I vaguely remember a similar one posted to Usenet ages ago; ah,=
those were the days.

> It has about 42 bits of entropy, generating a nice password that is > probably safe-for-work, unless you work in a very unusual place.=C2=A0= A lot
> of people use cuss words as passwords.

I read somewhere (Schneier?) that "shocking nonsense" makes for g= ood
passphrases; easily remembered, and hard to guess.=C2=A0 And yes, I know ab= out
that XKCD cartoon...

"play city ca= rrot is a toy store in tokyo"

was my pass phr= ase more than a decade ago....=C2=A0 Not quite nonsense, though, because th= e Japanese like to use English words for how they look or sound rather than= what they mean. Much like people here choose tattoos=C2=A0for how they loo= k, not quite understanding they just got "katchup queen gerbil" e= mblazoned on their lower back...

Warner
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