From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11138 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2022 17:18:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Aug 2022 17:18:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8645940D22; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 03:17:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f45.google.com (mail-vs1-f45.google.com [209.85.217.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F26EA40D01 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 03:17:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f45.google.com with SMTP id c3so12569426vsc.6 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=oVMyhwVIsl1tPViNYPQ6gnrh7JbMlPkcJPSVuThYdY4=; b=e4BYAtQZdZZgdThLL4qzNFQ2hlyASSunybMFh8Odf+iOthYeqHkpj9FmfRzNVyfC6b nBORT00GNjb/flqO5vVJApy1xQ2g1gbbNVsLBOB5eWBjfc23e8CK6civSeezPobYaTRw bLnKRbgSaPSobDzujiRUAKxatbVzgrT39CPfGXgBj7Yc8dcIac+1OFkFClIOEdMSnRsg q5GJko2eGBGAqymTZV1I3ktV1PfobkaPoI0BmfVnNTR0vlGU98Bs5bMraHtRdnv8eudS PXY6z614XqobO+PnELpSMJLR/WO0gEOD3cL0jZHawHsd4eDp8nJp/BFRMKfE3QWzqd3Q 8huQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=oVMyhwVIsl1tPViNYPQ6gnrh7JbMlPkcJPSVuThYdY4=; b=K/cungltWEOjA+nVdAX8XM8xd/2gA5RqSs1RbBbOTO5P3/upIEvDu3XpYP9K9g3w0U QU/flv4l9Y+2W3rHbpY4QVF9mQAEdt1LTnKpdAmCNT+mdrAzXNwiYGJxJlolGZTT6NIY 4ipmSwdAWUuZpqH+ChYqu+7qJOaHyAx0aXoYztXhUvKxF0omuSs/HdoU8yOxKQ8XrR7D bH9AG4ssb99ijXrTd+hZNfs3O+rOG17IMm4KGLnVrvi84ynwe64PZZ12VenZ1nPrgbGf NBMK62cB+ov87UvL62kScBMEpNzM+1/ErrJ1D28NVh5qiRXVqSZcfbwboygMFqodGowe BxVA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo04lJGv6l9BTxXCFdZc7KY6zuYvi2SlJLfTbxkyVk8WOOGshBAw XFQoSs+twD4AgTisRCd3R51qbSizIDkJ2WrzJLrd+E8L/P0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR4rkuAT7KwREjeShfsZHOKdWzGcdV1+rBei6IQtf8+q6Fk/X5aVlXXTMTm8lD1n7KcxTCWzeRo1MhXn4RYQSL0= X-Received: by 2002:a67:fdce:0:b0:388:485c:889c with SMTP id l14-20020a67fdce000000b00388485c889cmr9609194vsq.38.1660065401798; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:16:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 11:16:30 -0600 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009420ef05e5d21815" Message-ID-Hash: CGJ65O6FG5LSDXWYMF2FDQ6P6AN5M3EQ X-Message-ID-Hash: CGJ65O6FG5LSDXWYMF2FDQ6P6AN5M3EQ X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documents for UNIX Collections List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000009420ef05e5d21815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Perhaps Al could offer those areas that segaloco could use to improve the scans. Let's get over the 'presentation' of the issue (which we all are thinking in the back of our minds sucked) and understand how we call can produce better scans without getting overly defensive or protective about it (both reactions don't really help, and frankly aren't fun to read played out in a public list). Warner On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 9:15 AM segaloco via TUHS wrote: > I'm literally the one doing it now. Got a problem with it? Tough, you're > not the one doing *these* documents. Literally nobody is asking you to > take on the magnanimous task of "cleaning them up". Do it yourself or step > aside, but again, don't derail a thread about work I am going to do to lob > criticism of work you aren't going to do. Be childish somewhere else. > Sorry Al is stinking up this thread, this is the last thing I wanted, I'm > just contributing. > > - Matt G. > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Tuesday, August 9th, 2022 at 5:49 AM, Al Kossow > wrote: > > > > On 8/9/22 12:00 AM, segaloco wrote: > > > > > Frankly I will scan however I want given I am both paying for the > documents myself and scanning them in my own free time. > > > > > > Queue the virtue signaling. > > > > That is EXACTLY why I sent the rude message. > > I spent days cleaning up your scans to meet the bitsavers scanning > quality requirements of the > > garbage you produced, because you spent a WHOLE DAY scanning them. > > > > I've been doing this for twenty years, don't talk to me about time or > money spent doing this > --0000000000009420ef05e5d21815 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Perhaps Al could offer those areas that segaloco could use= to improve=C2=A0the scans.

Let's get over the '= presentation' of the issue (which we all are thinking in the back of ou= r minds sucked) and understand how we call can produce better scans without= getting overly defensive or protective about it (both reactions don't = really help, and frankly aren't fun to read played out in a public list= ).

Warner

On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 9:15 AM sega= loco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wr= ote:
I'm lit= erally the one doing it now.=C2=A0 Got a problem with it?=C2=A0 Tough, you&= #39;re not the one doing *these* documents.=C2=A0 Literally nobody is askin= g you to take on the magnanimous task of "cleaning them up".=C2= =A0 Do it yourself or step aside, but again, don't derail a thread abou= t work I am going to do to lob criticism of work you aren't going to do= .=C2=A0 Be childish somewhere else.=C2=A0 Sorry Al is stinking up this thre= ad, this is the last thing I wanted, I'm just contributing.

- Matt G.

------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, August 9th, 2022 at 5:49 AM, Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote:


> On 8/9/22 12:00 AM, segaloco wrote:
>
> > Frankly I will scan however I want given I am both paying for the= documents myself and scanning them in my own free time.
>
>
> Queue the virtue signaling.
>
> That is EXACTLY why I sent the rude message.
> I spent days cleaning up your scans to meet the bitsavers scanning qua= lity requirements of the
> garbage you produced, because you spent a WHOLE DAY scanning them.
>
> I've been doing this for twenty years, don't talk to me about = time or money spent doing this
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