From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] A language question
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:09:51 -0600 [thread overview]
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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:07 AM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:
> I disagree. TRAP according to the processor handbook was intended to be
> used for what UNIX calls system calls. EMT was the emulator trap used to
> simulate other operating systems on the same hardware. Oddly, for some
> reason, all the DEC OSes use EMT instructions for their system calls.
> This came in handy when JHU ported BasicPlus from RSTS to UNIX. That
> executable could run fine on UNIX because we caught the few EMT traps that
> mattered to us and simulated them. The only thing we had to do other than
> that was to add a "nostack()" system call that got rid of the normal
> UNIX-maintained stack starting at the address space (RSTS executables like
> many DEC OSs used a stack that started around 1000).
>
The various RT-11 emulators use variations on this theme as well, some
inside the kernel, some as a signal handler (fast forward 40-odd years and
I'm catching the SIGSEGV traps in executing 16-bit code to implement the
unix system calls)... It's a very useful and elegant trick that's been
oft-repeated.
> Many of the UNIX signals come straight from PDP-11 traps: SIGFPE, SIGIOT,
> SIGSEGV, SIGBUS, SIGILL, SIGEMT. and those traps invoked those signals.
>
Yes. They seemed to make perfect sense when I encountered them in Unix
after growing up on RSTS/e and RT-11 before my first contact with Unix....
> FPE - floating point exception
> ILL - illegal exception (either unknown opcode or CERTAIN of the
> privileged instructions, others were ignored)
> BUS - fatal unibus timeout trap. Usually an attempt to access a
> memory/unibus address that doesn't respond, or to do word accesses on odd
> boundaries.
> SEGV - accessing memory not mapped to you
> IOT - the IOT instruction
> BPT - the BPT instruction
> TRAP, EMT - these instructions
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-01 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-01 13:23 Richard Salz
2021-09-01 13:28 ` Dan Cross
2021-09-01 13:44 ` Clem Cole
2021-09-01 14:23 ` Paul Winalski
2021-09-01 14:29 ` John Cowan
2021-09-01 15:59 ` Ron Natalie
2021-09-01 18:09 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2021-09-01 18:43 ` John Cowan
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