From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c7ecedec for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 00:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3F3799C136; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:37:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6196A9C108; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:37:02 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="IxgrwsuS"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BD4699C108; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:36:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f176.google.com (mail-qt1-f176.google.com [209.85.160.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 190ED9C0FE for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 10:36:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f176.google.com with SMTP id v25so23218542qto.7 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:36:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=I7W3JUKlK2iKAXG1uFWovigE5U2BB4ngZxS11QEh8TQ=; b=IxgrwsuS4MFzhpl/6xqhc+Xg6wbfeBhnxK1th1pMArSnof5fkdLxWuaSqT1vbqPBO+ SDV9bgCSRyjcf+ypy7k9LymIbtn36fb4JtcrapOe2hkgA9+Nwv5GSmnXkB1dkwSlxeXc ahQrj70z9elQUA0vQpmF/sby46mqOZ9W+L5pBd2tHxrPde6h2KK9hF/aubh2dCRV5Slm K0GJVy27IK/nQ34PumgpuF0yuKCrVV09D+P6G8vDIhoz92oKpvZzbg07WcSVmn6epyXl FsFGRC+CWVUUkkkeaeI+KaRnkqxwgqYuLcjQyqw8bw/hknQ4hCHvn2I6Dh+l/Vr9Qikx qGPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=I7W3JUKlK2iKAXG1uFWovigE5U2BB4ngZxS11QEh8TQ=; b=jcsgOGtQ0kgEztb/xXiS+kQwtNbg1v2MXBGO7WtScmbqo8Pdla9KMn76BqHglppcRo O7xIpG1oPZ/kMa4g6wLXLMtDWtF0+PkGIHkFJIU9DnBUq8Pw6hbMl0GyK9M8TLu/Ie3a p906M3JlYFiWJvX7j09w78+JIuJNlgDGfIs0JJLKhaJtM4EcTf4QUR/7ArRa56yZmmc3 Ud3SJL4IJwdZCkqRtrhaCzk5ism6HeWsL9n4zH5uBKar9VWblzKYWhYRZ/gyLYVq6ykZ 0dprbF6sA7ck7rEhd+OInntP4q6zKO45VB0GGKzJSymAVgS8/eGHgbGGJaTZJD7HFdlI XtgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXlfb1YbPDJU8g/OYkoTK2xhTv6cw/hqqDXdlhXAFX6ooRLwUgs oJNPCCb9cXSty5pG6Fuh5axCNQKwFwX855XjZZZsJQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwl+AcvWKtK18xOxEwiEU2QQN5gIj4L5cL0KKM9yj0r+KMmwjeVnwLIjAiDIKXfNPcN/7MfhHC2hCXx7VXQ0XE= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:21ec:: with SMTP id 41mr10467000qtz.242.1579307818126; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:36:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007da7ff059c5f417c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] CSRG report TR/4 was in Jim Joyce papers X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000007da7ff059c5f417c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 5:33 PM Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > > Rich was kind enough to look through the Joyce papers to see if it > contained "CSRG Tech Report 4: Proposals for Unix on the VAX=E2=80=9D. It= did. > > As list regulars will know I=E2=80=99ve been looking for that paper for y= ears as > it documents the early ideas for networking and IPC in what was to become > 4.2BSD. > > It is an intriguing paper that discusses a network API that is imo fairly > different from what ended up being in 4.1a and 4.2BSD. It confirms Kirk > McKusick=E2=80=99s recollection that the select statement was modelled af= ter the > ADA select statement. It also confirms Clem Cole=E2=80=99s recollection t= hat the > initial ideas for 4.2BSB were significantly influenced by the ideas of > Richard Rashid (Aleph/Accent/Mach). > > Besides IPC and networking, it also discusses file systems and a wide > array of potential improvements in various other areas. > Awesome! Is that something that will be scanned in so we can all see it? Warner --0000000000007da7ff059c5f417c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 5:33 PM Paul = Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote= :

Rich was kind enough to look through the Joyce papers to see if it containe= d "CSRG Tech Report 4: Proposals for Unix on the VAX=E2=80=9D. It did.=

As list regulars will know I=E2=80=99ve been looking for that paper for yea= rs as it documents the early ideas for networking and IPC in what was to be= come 4.2BSD.

It is an intriguing paper that discusses a network API that is imo fairly d= ifferent from what ended up being in 4.1a and 4.2BSD. It confirms Kirk McKu= sick=E2=80=99s recollection that the select statement was modelled after th= e ADA select statement. It also confirms Clem Cole=E2=80=99s recollection t= hat the initial ideas for 4.2BSB were significantly influenced by the ideas= of Richard Rashid (Aleph/Accent/Mach).

Besides IPC and networking, it also discusses file systems and a wide array= of potential improvements in various other areas.
Awesome! Is that something that will be scanned=C2=A0in so we c= an all see it?

Warner=C2=A0
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