From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32753 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2023 02:57:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Aug 2023 02:57:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D3541060; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 12:57:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-x52b.google.com (mail-ed1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52b]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 170D54104F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 12:56:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-522bd411679so505979a12.0 for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 19:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20221208.gappssmtp.com; s=20221208; t=1691031411; x=1691636211; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=M0KxZ566QY8hrgrGBnmbi9SW08/mj8Z5JbP1UrLacUA=; b=1mdx5ymvrr6/g8lqwS/IR0+RMY7HacrRPK+SPOzdoF2yaBKBc3cbWjh0FZ8vsauAZC cFT8txb133tDIf4jPQxnBtAqy84FotlcsXszhUMMshqDDjwiYrSSkWrMoQRe81sIUnbs ntN0Dpi1oFyWvPtdipI7glQKTwRJZbjm4qYIvvhSx2sYBA23nM2J9jToRX+HY3QHcQSg IcEgp0ajP16gS3JXkOMbScYUZ1wau4WCYH/qvTiSySpGSjIDFBdv4YGuCv8fD52ORJLP iFeWqbITuppGAnxTKW5XCuNtUOu6QqKryvJRIA2oYrq1BgyDB4XeSboYaUZ1GrbUtwu1 qxCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691031411; x=1691636211; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=M0KxZ566QY8hrgrGBnmbi9SW08/mj8Z5JbP1UrLacUA=; b=R3c+d1gbMmRGZPwqWQNG2uSfrbVi81f6qdS1uRaaAGAIfR1YNESNd1dSHEBKty0Zny D3KMe0G3XyCciSoOjvmuvqQugV8RYT329TevEecdz3GYdFhYHyHS6PZq1rCi7GPTB2OJ xxsd0eaysct3pXXpSn5jLsD1TPb6OSMqHUf+xHjpXPh1cS8XM+V3jpZ+sQhOEhKw8hQq i43ZIru4HgKPv9QJjLIUgmecSs8sC+Fl0djOtnajaMgwdVbLwZTa2Nke8EPpAQ7dBOd9 VqhOoGINe7LGhwkBRjDKq272jDQOah6o/XgpIi1Fszcvj5yL6FD5OVH+B+vxvv26FSZ8 JFqg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLYOLxLlEB/znglKmb6+i/A7hXS1Hi4/6IX22UuOum9tGH3w97P2 OTMOgMaR5iFFLNOZdzjieSiVmc051ito+nbBlP3GqqRv0ynCD2cvG7I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlFPXWaX7CbXBACxniYa7vM9kjU+HXJm7KeSKN/q3cuJUkiW9vlGR8vzJ+iOd35/ylmpOu1YW1smcoqFHkBPcis= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c715:0:b0:51d:fa7c:c330 with SMTP id i21-20020aa7c715000000b0051dfa7cc330mr5892198edq.26.1691031410396; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 19:56:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8246.1690761540@cesium.clock.org> <29602.1690887524@cesium.clock.org> <20230803005106.GA12652@mcvoy.com> <2f77b26f-206c-6a80-90b3-b769a9f0f32d@nomadlogic.org> In-Reply-To: <2f77b26f-206c-6a80-90b3-b769a9f0f32d@nomadlogic.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:56:41 -0600 Message-ID: To: Pete Wright Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008562460601fbee93" Message-ID-Hash: ND4VUZ6AMMQPIA53EW22TE2VY64NHZBA X-Message-ID-Hash: ND4VUZ6AMMQPIA53EW22TE2VY64NHZBA X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: python List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000008562460601fbee93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:21=E2=80=AFPM Pete Wright via TUHS = wrote: > this isn't to say i think python is the end-all of programming, far from > it, but it certainly took a lot of the novice programmer anxiety out of > programming for be. > python doesn't suck because batteries are included and what's not included is pretty easy to just drag in and get craptops of useful stuff done in a hurry. Would I write a kernel in? Hell no. But would I knock together a bit of dat= a visualization after massaging data in an almost throw-a-way manner? You betcha. It's stunningly adequate... A latter day awk for junk I need to do from time to time... Warner --0000000000008562460601fbee93 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0000000000008562460601fbee93--