From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 3f3d64c5 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BB746A1B1D; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:06:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913ECA1AFF; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:05:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BF62DA1AFF; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:05:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-it1-f182.google.com (mail-it1-f182.google.com [209.85.166.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F4232A1AFC for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:05:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-it1-f182.google.com with SMTP id v11so6039432itj.0 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:05:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=V08QXqjU6DtiGaDPoBjLJcSn11X4WIt1ZOb+KXUuu5Y=; b=uUdkiRZ5gDsuHEIR1OtnbkzLAmqKo4Tsx+ph01aD+0Q7qThCQ/1VkVhDf1+cJFXy6F PBamBtG4XooFwTHCtngBvv2SIN8Y24enuJL5Y4yRNLbz0OVibIoeX/Kx2YPJsWnGgAGl TUr2HCf3nAvxOH9U2tFMZKxNxf+nz9G1c9cEraeXgIHcEpvubTXtJI8syo3qWbFUVwiw D2NnM5O1o2NoTJdkMSH8P1SwRP6qO6CMxlWCGxqGWEAPAnPOeAZ7Gytl/W3Np9eXrm6j JCnfZxfeMY39Pny+pzoBaFEOOQdcvKEin63f1W0uzl4ra8mPyQHMTc9AF+lMbNxeFt94 kYSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V08QXqjU6DtiGaDPoBjLJcSn11X4WIt1ZOb+KXUuu5Y=; b=dktVBPzL70jkFejRfuexcLtl7rYytc8/720+B2klUrzjZoUEtgIVxJ89WP6ZYunSbp XZGH02QYTGt3ZLOMXyX2X+Rbh/a1c4zMOFGTSY1oLNzTo1+6XMoeRXlyDlVB5rYjw5hr pAuh4brQ7gpCKrFU3EEQlZXx6Gl0wA8zM2rUNF4dxSkVFlNp0SOJqRA4duUUUkTASOL0 /8Tw4AbpO22kjEKz91M+9kozlCQInWW6sCXCNib0HhFBtre0sn1r4CIo2hmoAAcE8rcv KJ1mNQZirs6bq0Z8O35rmrAqB8549qHhBPok9vq8uIHbV2Zo2771Z/JWrB0sWpXCelAt ikLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIg8bV0a7gglY47oYea1NFXaX0sNTCx1d0cZUl3H6We/GxY3aPr jQPTNzaf6gAyQVX0WY7OEVu5ZZXwZDrevJVVRd7HJA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5csvGixM3F6Cv4CUW7tMSF2AE5CalgEUg5E7gqqmbuoj3HTQT/JNjjnIE/TW6ibsaH21R7FXAeDA2Wdmm4P1Js= X-Received: by 2002:a02:8c1d:: with SMTP id l29mr6288628jak.93.1542611119891; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 23:05:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201811160003.wAG03mlF139232@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <20181116045016.GK3341@mcvoy.com> <7a632484-cdc7-7c59-7077-7a2c752045da@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <4c36b2b2-76df-435f-27bc-e1feb0647f36@case.edu> <201811162113.wAGLDGiQ031455@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: <201811162113.wAGLDGiQ031455@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 00:05:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jon Steinhart Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d3fe5c057aff236c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000d3fe5c057aff236c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > Emacs sort of > violates my UNIX-sense as it does many things instead of doing one thing > well. I'd argue that's not a bad thing. When people tried to add macros to make or sendmail, you wound up with crazy like imake or the crazy sendfile.m4 stuff. Of course, sendmail and one thing aren't mates, but sometimes you need to do a few, well chosen things well to avoid the crazy that trying to misuse something will bring to the table. Warner --000000000000d3fe5c057aff236c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri= , Nov 16, 2018 at 2:40 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com> wrote:
Emacs sort of
violates my UNIX-sense as it does many things instead of doing one thing well.

I'd argue that's not a bad th= ing. When people tried to add macros to make or sendmail, you wound up with= crazy like imake or the crazy sendfile.m4 stuff. Of course, sendmail and o= ne thing aren't mates, but sometimes you need to do a few, well chosen = things well to avoid the crazy that trying to misuse something will bring t= o the table.

Warner=C2=A0
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