From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 49f73f94 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 05:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DD44E9BC02; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:01:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A24F94808; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:01:02 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="ztjVLnk4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C966094808; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:00:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f174.google.com (mail-qt1-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C53394803 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:00:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f174.google.com with SMTP id r5so20048982qtd.0 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 22:00:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=+C9OVWQSHV3kI3irBTQ0FOt4uKAFDtMHV+A67EBvX2Q=; b=ztjVLnk4q1n6AVAw7iY9SUSkGbR2im3SZRsKUR1rxTZfGNkJEL1B179xK4ecWui6Bn OAHTjyYajuwMjjAySycGw17G1KlWWdnkzt1Kfg2VJhXKBddgjaZyIQkmaFCY4Fz3Cbe0 J95EzLR9dXzlCiugtbsuEeZBFmw/f48ZsXuxWt1+WiVUYAPxJdp/tNruYeqU7CJfUV8C YLtWBmVgfzcbs+kaW7c/1sR1EOny6uG7Nm7t3J7ciBzmQDIVBlF2WmztZIYztem/MT2H Bk2QdoPKd1YEHiKoY7xPm3H7srLW1mZHUMFo5nlvKp5u0hYQ9Sex1TxAQvExv1Xm/4TH TDaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+C9OVWQSHV3kI3irBTQ0FOt4uKAFDtMHV+A67EBvX2Q=; b=mOPXPtgk2ovixjw/cYh2hXFj/dsGmsFtcT68Y40zFvvkT+T0PJRPcQxlgd4T5oXVhI kDQ9oQzdw8d1+h5DAoP7eHhY2ENgCoEqFmuGtxOwC44P46hLoVggWIGMqbiXFWUiC1Jz 5AhIqr7HnnhMmzgs5INMqR0zFEb2/1XzAe0vdrGPiR9KbLqVfIdLwFZo8K4ZkWTLvlp/ k484mOtlj1kNt5GsCUu6IP1ig77m/SSGFT1j9TP0DJ3SHSU0vUU8XMtiyL10DCCofdRE zIjbkfeFknhzkFHXBgfif79lZq1njr8JFgidNa2cNffCX7T9015uS3RnEM9mBNFrmCK2 Qypg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU+mADnEO6n87oZsvzXJwScMOeiwZ2Xqd3ao+BS+qIAz0c3bsv0 BoEfUmq4wkUjBot98bd9GtAiCS9w5xHiaB6D5Hi06A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw7t7+Pxupo5bF3Cb+qj3FAswL5A9eqDeTxjAA85DuDJ5JUSKEMpyD0RsAbmRe/z5tl4NG8ibwCe4mGk5kKKNk= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:52cc:: with SMTP id p12mr23354645qvs.236.1569906056346; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 22:00:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7D53B9FD-7368-420F-979D-06F841A1D5D6@ccc.com> In-Reply-To: <7D53B9FD-7368-420F-979D-06F841A1D5D6@ccc.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 23:00:44 -0600 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d1d3f10593d23c8a" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Leaked patches... v6 to v6.5 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000d1d3f10593d23c8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 9:25 PM Clem cole wrote: > Right. That=E2=80=99s the V6 diff tape. Yea. This copy looks like it has been applied and has the commentary on it. A rather nice find. There are a plethora of copies of v6 with changes here and there for bug fixes and new drivers. The other nugget is that "many of the changes ... are in our own sources" suggesting they are in AUSAM since unsw was part of that effort... I'll have to audit the diffs between v6.5 and v7... I=E2=80=99m not sure where the story of it coming from Lou comes from (I=E2= =80=99ve never > heard that before to be honest). Wikipedia :). It comes from our friend Warren: Toomey, Warren (December 2011). "The Strange Birth and Long Life of Unix" . *IEEE Spectrum *. IEEE . Retrieved December 15, 2012. Maybe he can say... Warner But the source for many of us was Kens trip to CA and the stop to see > Chesson at U of I. > > I don=E2=80=99t remember who gave it to us at CMU at the time but like co= pies of > the Lions book there was an active underground in those days. > > Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not > quite. > > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, reed@reedmedia.net wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > >> Ok. I know there was never a v6.5... officially. But there are several > >> references to that in different bits of the early user group news > letters. > >> This refers to v6 plus all the patches that "leaked" out of bell Labs > via > >> udel and Lou Katz. > >> My question?is,? have they survived? The story sure has, but I didn't > find them > >> in the archive..? > > > > I think these are the same as what went other places too. > > > > See > > Archive/Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz > > unsw3/usr/sys/v6unix/ directory. > > has annotated changes and a diff > > > > (following from my writings...) > > > > In preparation to his year sabbatical, Thompson put together a Unix > > system to take. ``Since it was almost a release, I made a `diff' with > > V6. On the way to Berkeley, I stopped by Urbana-Champaign ... I left th= e > > `diff' tape there and ... [said] I wouldn't mind it if it got > > around.''\cite{salus2008} > > > > At the University of Illinois at Chicago Circle, research assistant Mik= e > > O'Brien got a copy of the single-file diff (from Thompson directly). It= s > > main purpose was to keep the Bell Labs systems from crashing. O'Brien > > went through it, diff by diff, and annotated it so others would have > > some idea of what it was what and whether they were > > useful.\cite{mikeobrien1} > > > > ... > > > > By the end of the summer, Haley and Joy began to explore the kernel > > internals. With Schriebman's observance, they installed the fixes > > and improvements provided on the ``fifty changes'' tape from Bell Labs. > > As they learned to maneuver through the kernel code, they suggested > > several small enhancements to streamline certain > > bottlenecks.\cite{mckusick85} > > > --000000000000d1d3f10593d23c8a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yea. This copy looks like it has been applied and has = the commentary=C2=A0on it.=C2=A0 A rather nice find. There are a plethora o= f copies of v6 with changes here=C2=A0and there for bug fixes and new drive= rs.

The other nugget is = that "many of the changes ... are in our own sources" suggesting = they are in AUSAM since unsw was part of that effort...

I'll have to audit the diffs between v6= .5 and v7...=C2=A0=C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m not= sure where the story of it coming from Lou comes from (I=E2=80=99ve never = heard that before to be honest).

Wikipedia :). It comes from our friend Warren:=

Toomey, Warren (December 2011).=C2=A0"The Strange Birt= h and Long Life of Unix".= =C2=A0IEEE Spectrum.=C2=A0IEEE. Retrieved=C2=A0December 15,=C2=A02012.

Maybe he can say= ...=C2=A0

Warner


<= /div>

But=C2=A0 =C2=A0the source for many of us= was Kens trip to CA and the stop to see Chesson at U of I.=C2=A0

I don=E2=80=99t remember who gave it to us at CMU at the time but like copi= es of the Lions book there was an active underground in those days.=C2=A0 <= br>
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite= .

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, reed@reedmedia.net wrote:=
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>> Ok. I know there was never a v6.5... officially. But there are sev= eral
>> references to that in different bits of the early user group news = letters.
>> This refers to v6 plus all the patches that "leaked" out= of bell Labs via
>> udel and Lou Katz.
>> My question?is,? have they survived? The story sure has, but I did= n't find them
>> in the archive..?
>
> I think these are the same as what went other places too.
>
> See
> Archive/Applications/Spencer_Tapes/unsw3.tar.gz
> unsw3/usr/sys/v6unix/ directory.
> has annotated changes and a diff
>
> (following from my writings...)
>
> In preparation to his year sabbatical, Thompson put together a Unix > system to take.=C2=A0 ``Since it was almost a release, I made a `diff&= #39; with
> V6. On the way to Berkeley, I stopped by Urbana-Champaign ... I left t= he
> `diff' tape there and ...=C2=A0 [said] I wouldn't mind it if i= t got
> around.''\cite{salus2008}
>
> At the University of Illinois at Chicago Circle, research assistant Mi= ke
> O'Brien got a copy of the single-file diff (from Thompson directly= ). Its
> main purpose was to keep the Bell Labs systems from crashing.=C2=A0 O&= #39;Brien
> went through it, diff by diff, and annotated it so others would have <= br> > some idea of what it was what and whether they were
> useful.\cite{mikeobrien1}
>
> ...
>
> By the end of the summer, Haley and Joy began to explore the kernel > internals. With Schriebman's observance, they installed the fixes =
> and improvements provided on the ``fifty changes'' tape from B= ell Labs.=C2=A0
> As they learned to maneuver through the kernel code, they suggested > several small enhancements to streamline certain
> bottlenecks.\cite{mckusick85}
>
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