From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0064f026 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 69F1E94768; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:21:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D149993D3A; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:21:23 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="r4aE3/f/"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9FBBB93D3A; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:21:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f171.google.com (mail-qt1-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3197693D28 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:21:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f171.google.com with SMTP id v52so6772964qtb.8 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 21:21:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=onoZAogR0YZAg9PUWqN2re5gC1+MvL8YJU9p5qgr35w=; b=r4aE3/f/SdMuBcgabotkDccXTfGcc8Zas9nrqDedpstYl2xfLjLao/4lBGvyFGt9xL JcOnUpEfUCkWsCizehmlryiNn3bp25hBexaxSRriFTsv05gcTDfPoEzeWPVyk/p4QQOM K3O3BL1tQN0aD/AZ5BWIEZkNbmYUo8BCAlPfbmrFeDwSZcI/3bkrBkGgyOaYZLimlRlg 3cN3OvFUVX/Rz7Vjr0MkqriyO35tXPo0mNf2RuhY7X+yyBv8osdzmQ61tEl7ytRtWCHd PxuZk18DwehGkIZncQtAiwka4A2cS4b3kZGxLdwUkXuxaRafz51gXGQ7qsATAAm97e17 po6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=onoZAogR0YZAg9PUWqN2re5gC1+MvL8YJU9p5qgr35w=; b=Kd6vj3XKBYKgpjkTHwp8py0vznXLyBu4C1rtqIi1+VN69sdjjkBUBxnyUmM5ZSfOLI VbZ7sBHXj5fpDsGWh4utO3Lru8rOTZrVtCjUH3dheQb17LRk0/xG4BPoFC9wJVZQdxRK IK1JstPaPSfh0oDNpoOe7A/NHWljA0v/7QjdY8oZZIB6M2dgG/qd/gqz7A4lXpfRCeO4 oCQOHKurFDYW2CelpTeXnGZoXbRLFRKbILg5aAz2TyYcDTeeFtnX0vF5r7trKj0YfQQM A1+4tDW6MBUs2P6WM7fw4NUvqxydc7jfN443BxiJ37991/HewlUm1GRrvoKuyAeoiTJA j78g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVJDuTyVBKtId8P+4aOsJ4Low4sT/BY9MzHvAPNACrH9lfKhzH8 Eq20UQNWZx60gT221Fr9eLPJt/AqAx6cFmgbVMcoow== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyFQr4A+xNSx6TdFqCbKsWEg5Sp1fX/AT4zYxIBbcnQ3mr/pqFIJn2DWFWr/3Cg0howV9NbVYUWHj3SuKv1KnQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:610e:: with SMTP id a14mr7895078qtm.187.1570681280142; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 21:21:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201910100331.x9A3VTUH073703@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 22:21:08 -0600 Message-ID: To: Doug McIlroy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c2338b059486bb0b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] History talk in Dallas Texas October 10 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000c2338b059486bb0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:49 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:32 PM Doug McIlroy wrote: > >> > Was patent department that first used Unix on PDP-11 and roff (~1971) >> > same department that would later handle Unix licensing two years later? >> > (~1973) >> >> No. The former was the BTL legal and patent department. The latter was >> at AT&T (or perhaps Western Electric) >> > > I know all the later contracts were with western electric... we have them > due to the bsd/at&t lawsuit, right? > Ah, Berkeley's contract for Oct 73 is with Western Electric. Warner > --000000000000c2338b059486bb0b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:49 PM Warner Losh <= imp@= bsdimp.com> wrote:


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 9:32 PM Doug McIlroy <do= ug@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
= > Was patent department that first used Unix on PDP-11 and roff (~1971)<= br> > same department that would later handle Unix licensing two years later= ?
> (~1973)

No. The former was the BTL legal and patent department. The latter was
at AT&T (or perhaps Western Electric)

I know all the later contracts wer= e with western electric... we have them due to the bsd/at&t lawsuit, ri= ght?

Ah, Berkeley's contract for Oct 73 is with Western Electric.=C2= =A0

Warner
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