From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30336 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2022 22:13:50 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2022 22:13:50 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3CEBB9B8B1; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:13:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A5B9510A; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:13:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.b="uhq7xV45"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2A51A9510A; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:13:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-f171.google.com (mail-vk1-f171.google.com [209.85.221.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DB0295109 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:13:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id b77so6008046vka.11 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:13:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xmlwx2dPMwOxdFJLd4GTitwMrr6enqGrxKrnjICDCSE=; b=uhq7xV45X/ia7/nIm6PkXIY5V2L6ttAIqJF1GNnGVZ/VafoSGoGHouR3S2ARpLpjZW 1N6Shm7MEHc13niLbmI1Ddy+4hq3T6Mcg1lPwMGIzeCyBjxZ8mzU4ztkNrQmY7jISf/4 RiCCOC+gV7zkk4eB4lcD5K2MCU1XDE5Ls9Oisd6wVANSlDM5EWCcldqWfcqpX7YMNMYM se5omgcK189rOinI66Wp241cuFMOLkNERNQXAu1qnoVHzJr8yVN8QVzqSBLMbprglDGe JC/RdYnGh/ZnKsWBB334LEnU+bGh04CnDlEczWDi/QZTwlTgL2MgYe/k2Uvv0FZiQSL4 5g6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xmlwx2dPMwOxdFJLd4GTitwMrr6enqGrxKrnjICDCSE=; b=yb/wtcXvsE57j/PffKWbqXF0+LTrgSALN21+DoFClQAv8cCrp6/RUDPgLl/EHkK1yw UGx13pql0ZmCmVqrSXPs49WBkW+W0RyKZzkS/pzo8OqJyEK4eBVae3FFDlKlmdirmZVh Mk4z/yPr0tsbro+62PHJLratqKyqPvSrtFulErDqTIpIHG/NmX3/WtWBj7uLz41VZwU6 0kUXhxDkemsvxuU3SpRqUR3iKqo6C4v+0hMcvbXThVVs7a3fXoCB+Xjc+cxLY3y2OkSI c3s/6M9xNL/GcGNyuiQxh/D8QDsnMaQRHbpLGd7hOkMMgwvHm5ZcTx83smo4QzGwrpCE dy7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531SX6ywSLVMCa4gC0aDLe/1+x1+YJlIyqSX7ehOaVF94XLXwihZ 8M+m2ZhrG0fz5zb0c2+W09AhC/z7XMn/ARh3MgFlaA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyx1jH/Gyi7Q4y03ftP2wSFFHT4ngy6ZT8BWIrXrcAbnKtej8Bv2YhGcUPP6f5rst2Tvcpm6TgdIsWDRYahREs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:181a:: with SMTP id ay26mr6025700vkb.5.1643494416308; Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:13:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0C7FF60E-D7B1-434A-87D1-35E1102D7DC6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0C7FF60E-D7B1-434A-87D1-35E1102D7DC6@gmail.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:13:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dff0e305d6bfdcad" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3 BSD network name resolution X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000dff0e305d6bfdcad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:49 PM Will Senn wrote: > I'm working through 4.3BSD setup and configuration and came across this: > > > "There is no equivalent service for network names yet. The full host and > network name databases are normally derived from a file retrieved from > Internet Network Information Center at SRI... use gettable to retrieve the > NIC host database and htable to convert it to the format used by the > libraries." > > > Does this mean I should expect functionality like resolv.conf and ping > yahoo.com not to work in 4.3, or by some miracle is gettable still a > functional system? > DNS post-dates 4.3BSD. The first DNS RFC was published in Nov 1987. 4.3BSD was June 1986. The host table update was a thing, but my school was far enough off the beaten path that by the time we were on the internet, DNS was a thing... Warner --000000000000dff0e305d6bfdcad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:49 PM Will = Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>= wrote:

I'm working thr= ough 4.3BSD setup and configuration and came across this:


"There is no e= quivalent service for network names yet. The full host and network name dat= abases are normally derived from a file retrieved from Internet Network Inf= ormation Center at SRI... use gettable to retrieve the NIC host database an= d htable to convert it to the format used by the libraries."


Does this mean I sh= ould expect functionality like resolv.conf and ping yahoo.com not to work in 4.3, or by some miracl= e is gettable still a functional system?

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DNS post-dates 4.3BSD. The first DNS RFC was published in No= v 1987. 4.3BSD was June 1986. The host table update was a thing, but my sch= ool was far enough off the beaten path that by the time we were on the inte= rnet, DNS was a thing...

Warner
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