From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20886 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2022 16:57:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jun 2022 16:57:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA5140D29; Wed, 8 Jun 2022 02:57:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2a]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B593D40D28 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2022 02:57:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com with SMTP id w10so17252384vsa.4 for ; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:57:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H5ysZHr8nZg/GpwjFDVgLxkfYONF7V1T/PX2pj5XhoU=; b=Fs5RAfRBwUVQSD7u1th4FGdFVTKlV1k+P0BDgcmMkb4yCq063dKFY8+5vgvU7exliA ec4aPuScK6o2AkMLPy6+kYSUlPn5FzflsBJuCAh8T8yjpAikauUdC3JdAs7+6YYXNvMw drdJRtg/snTdHzrQOlWSu7ilRwV4tUbnWKBSkOpKBQQ3i36eFUcLXYI/46CvkM4LDSUT mhrEdPM+ebeOJdnSico4murWpe9qnucBBi+hBybN9sai/NMjXtfnMot4RIS6egaoqJAX NMezGL0Toy9T1Z3EjEy6uFblgoGmrw273LebclngLHHiNDWjqJwk2d4lZi9YxVpvd3bA /j+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H5ysZHr8nZg/GpwjFDVgLxkfYONF7V1T/PX2pj5XhoU=; b=Q7oylbvfB7ai+tNsQLeauJIdzGjITECHVDKSdfo2oj+6zcvGzvLD0OiaEGP05oP8Ab 1iIrf1aorbKuHrdtbXvf59MczAzOm452NjdCZy30JpuKnq81bnHqGtiVcJj5Rqh+5CRN aYxJellzWZDkolOFoZmUxcHlBZSXxumZVvmxoi6Zeh4K6X51BH3EkG20t8znGkaNBQX2 sp+Pqs1dyaalwDJeLDhM+EKwZf3/xhVmuFrwTGeihhGEOwHCAtF8G4DK7ueDS3XNchTz jNSQyAloLT1Z6scbJSVAOdR+ERSsVnW/o6I07zZquCdm+WlsAn5DnLD0c/ba2QIkByvX xPag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532cm7osIINimhfJRVNvUOIB8M/tKnKQxvmaX2dbw9YpJqxHqpe3 +hVayw8ImFUcMt/T37SpcapFnJbeoBdjvDkzfwp+Q6TAQG8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw5xrrqRxsAiFATCpSosXqz6yK8mX5GK42w+VwWX3RRpV13hO/Ar7qD7tMAvAWk4Tkg0oeXwwP7m3NySBdK2ro= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ef46:0:b0:34b:d418:86c2 with SMTP id k6-20020a67ef46000000b0034bd41886c2mr4436371vsr.19.1654621046579; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220607152519.GN15041@mcvoy.com> <20220607164553.GU15041@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20220607164553.GU15041@mcvoy.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 10:57:15 -0600 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b83d4a05e0de7b13" Message-ID-Hash: XDQQINPYIDUEEDWPIHRSA7YELFC2Z256 X-Message-ID-Hash: XDQQINPYIDUEEDWPIHRSA7YELFC2Z256 X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000b83d4a05e0de7b13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:45 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 10:38:57AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:03 AM Will Senn wrote: > > > > > Interesting crossover from Linux to Linux Distros... Debian's my > > > personal fave (in the form of Mint, MX, or even Ubuntu), mostly cuz apt > > > seems to just work (for me, ymmv) and rpm sucks :). However, all of > > > these run on the same kernel and generally provide the same userland > > > (core-utils, etc). > > > > > > But not the same binaries. I've run into a lot of issues trying to run a > > binary for Debian on red hat or vice Vera due to shared libraries not > being > > completely compatible... kinda makes the whole system call argument moot > > since there is always significant version skew... > > Yep, shared libraries can screw you but that's true anywhere. > Kinda my point: you brag of a misleading compatibility and then attack others that decide to slice things up differently and don't have that, these days useless, talking point. Warner -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com > http://www.mcvoy.com/lm > --000000000000b83d4a05e0de7b13 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:45 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 10:38:57AM -0600, Warner Losh wro= te:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:03 AM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
>
> > Interesting crossover from Linux to Linux Distros... Debian's= my
> > personal fave (in the form of Mint, MX, or even Ubuntu), mostly c= uz apt
> > seems to just work (for me, ymmv) and rpm sucks :). However, all = of
> > these run on the same kernel and generally provide the same userl= and
> > (core-utils, etc).
>
>
> But not the same binaries. I've run into a lot of issues trying to= run a
> binary for Debian on red hat or vice Vera due to shared libraries not = being
> completely compatible... kinda makes the whole system call argument mo= ot
> since there is always significant version skew...

Yep, shared libraries can screw you but that's true anywhere.

Kinda my p= oint: you brag of a misleading compatibility and then attack others that de= cide to slice things up differently and don't have that, these days use= less, talking point.

War= ner

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