From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30039 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2021 01:56:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Apr 2021 01:56:38 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 564BE9CA33; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:56:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C4B9C641; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:55:47 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="wx7HQ/HC"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E4489C641; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:55:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f170.google.com (mail-qk1-f170.google.com [209.85.222.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 594CE9C63F for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:55:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id v70so6724433qkb.8 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NrVa4V/PPaCFC++0asJg+zrDyAqMl0h917/lV1U/LWE=; b=wx7HQ/HCKhyfUteOL3l4h4pljfK5P8S/UJhQZr2McuqwKrGziXW3FUTxU641qGmOyw u52EsFrGxW1wRPBUbhRzT9XSevUlWo/2fwvcSZ959FTszU9EsSydf2F+TQOkH+xG7zMM Cjjhl3kUsVMVCFSMp0z3pNug+Div2jY+XvMmCIVAZoer85HWRZqRG4nA37qdC/YHosMH /PqCI5u6f7+mJgk3aYEGofnBFUsYAEc9HpsohKoS94V7Rm2pZcNct33qX8UzjsFamBHL 1YmjjZIjCV7UZ4kkK0er+5ELp6/YD63X5A3uU3jEjJ+mHaE3rhoDXUuKLseeKRbxSqKJ 3ROQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NrVa4V/PPaCFC++0asJg+zrDyAqMl0h917/lV1U/LWE=; b=gktfeS05mhGhLENoDbAG3y5zOEikcgaUpdpaAsJRso6bnb8xM5Q2SI6R2V1jJ8fp+2 cgrUnbXeOa7lpREZuWhyxt8IR0eyDsbYeihkkHciledP5ckGunQaiu2uxRn48YAx9TE6 wRTmgzbs3vGPtCQcUJJv1qsSxBsyIi3SprcUJttwPMfg/35QX7l3VmM7oV6RTBkfG34q Bv0rmK1bITu4oWfAyhq7RarhMPw0+eN8sHtj4VX2kQ/bm+dEru4/8XU6H0wJk8joFkID oI/RkTaMbJS6Ir210B57+qnpDU0lcYawQtqJ2gGZP735WzZK5uXiHHzfnnxSOONC/Xdw GPxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531zMQvRd23TTJeQ8k8zXltJMOIjkW/nobbBB4lRRYggxss8GTS1 iWBBJYhwvJlEVbDaBDBV40x/1THQcjcTw2DIfv4WMIOvenFF7A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx/bjR9rrMruvh1YOxQOiHzZpXCpgpcdJZRWe6jdL4mwrhM52P1CeHcgr+LK6QKuFWbuSM/rYEWpNwyT93LTHk= X-Received: by 2002:a37:a48a:: with SMTP id n132mr15064656qke.359.1617414941438; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 18:55:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210401145025.GA1202@naleco.com> <202104020700.13270EDK018774@freefriends.org> <202104021026.132AQhs5014565@freefriends.org> <20210402140229.GD1202@naleco.com> <20210402151650.GA8268@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 19:55:29 -0600 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000a0b8405bf07c3f0" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000000a0b8405bf07c3f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 7:51 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Fri, 2 Apr 2021, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > SunOS 4, though I love it more than most people, is ancient history and > > is basically under one big lock for SMP. It was a huge amount of work > > to get that code to scale in Solaris (they lifted the VM system and the > > hat layer from SunOS 4 to 5 and then went to work). > > SunOS 4.1 was the best *ix I have ever used (and I've used lots over the > decades); then Slowaris came along and trashed the joint because the suits > were in charge instead of the real workers. > > We never had a need for SMP, so we didn't miss it. > OS/MP from Solbourne gave you both: SMP and SonOS 4.1.x. Warner > > -- Dave > --0000000000000a0b8405bf07c3f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 7:51 PM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021, Larry McVoy wrote:

> SunOS 4, though I love it more than most people, is ancient history an= d
> is basically under one big lock for SMP.=C2=A0 It was a huge amount of= work
> to get that code to scale in Solaris (they lifted the VM system and th= e
> hat layer from SunOS 4 to 5 and then went to work).

SunOS 4.1 was the best *ix I have ever used (and I've used lots over th= e
decades); then Slowaris came along and trashed the joint because the suits =
were in charge instead of the real workers.

We never had a need for SMP, so we didn't miss it.

OS/MP from Solbourne = gave you both: SMP and SonOS 4.1.x.

Warner=C2=A0
=

-- Dave
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