From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14216 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2020 14:34:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Aug 2020 14:34:09 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BAA9D9CB3F; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:34:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EFF9C9E3; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:33:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="R40qeLFH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C9AC59C9E3; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:33:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f170.google.com (mail-qk1-f170.google.com [209.85.222.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DED9D93DFC for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:33:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id h7so31478448qkk.7 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2020 07:33:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CEl41gtjIDLYELB6DL43RNVzhsguSQG4ZplYUZiiJEk=; b=R40qeLFHle4tkLujHqiwpeoLmQNLYpAeVGKSEF6CEIkINr3J1WEJ8ycUK/htqjmMDg VcX5gXtc6T3VqD90ATN+0FYxTJ4pX96tpUgx+j0fFLLauw3yZLH8j2/Mw2MKjNl/TkDa ecOiVlyGEYHFjvl+ACPTjh8tWpWi6LcpEjvECExSAxEZl6sdueHIbaI01IYLj9UIOlAL fRWfw6LV+QfCsJcJ5uDKFt+P/auyFFE6Ctq/fW7L4uC/N51Fsgp39VVQw56ykjoRdSxr TzgXvksHKB15rbZCXXnAf2vBa3ny3XRCSEl4A8nx7hZJUQ7aqG046R3v5UqJq3HbUHKA LM5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CEl41gtjIDLYELB6DL43RNVzhsguSQG4ZplYUZiiJEk=; b=t4QSfkbNo60EXkitfFFxIVi86gxoHsgHSYjqbYMIaKsMrQHMRUGUNjMNe3XHL9ISe/ gMlNsGotC4WDHVp0AxbEOTw4xXKuLv9dAdOdGS2O89OvrTf0aTTM623R/+rEFDrgWOTb IG/vQJETMRYP5/+K3sKNyqJW7ni3NurdHsPpug0TFae81w5h3JzKs/Jym4sgticdC9un 7KnrmkksLzn1c9/LN6MY/ZwLnupn+Tls6dTgsooKTXDd+0xuFsFWDGqHr6B15xeJl1MX kasJJMQmIXWOCqn/DB3it11SIZrEY+2O+sX90MG2PE1N44Z/aHU3W3GtfzVHcdzNx4us B+Zw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532IiHRu3Dq5PbeQyXAIBwrurerO/gIdw4T8D6OS3Ym9pFBjgGpo B5E8W0PRIQXUdVgRCLB2YIZa0C3dmfhpbVIhuQANJA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJySKtjkrCgjjc42vWtTfXHztAtHiA4cIoQ86p2ZSlaIVulOsUUd66rHLpsuQ423EULBMtl2/BWIJ1btlPlURrA= X-Received: by 2002:a37:66d7:: with SMTP id a206mr8622214qkc.495.1596292412795; Sat, 01 Aug 2020 07:33:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 08:33:20 -0600 Message-ID: To: Clem Cole Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000038ffaa05abd1ca0a" Subject: Re: [TUHS] vi in v7 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000038ffaa05abd1ca0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 6:16 AM Clem Cole wrote: > Dave those are ANSI tape labels. Unix does not use them DEC did > although was inconsistent with the use particularly WRT HDR2 records. Tom > Quarles (of spice 3 fame) wrote probably the best version for Unix to deal > with them. I believe I gave a copy but it will be in BSD 4.1 maybe 4.2 > compiler syntax. I'll ask him if he ever updated it. Clem > How is that related to ansitar.c? Warner On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:55 AM Dave Horsfall wrote: > >> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> > Weren't V5/6/7/etc distributed as bootable tapes? Set the switch >> > register to point to the tape instead of the disk... >> > >> > Yes. They were. We have V6 and V7 tapes (and a V5 disk image). Likely >> > earlier versions likely did too. What I'd meant was that 2.8BSD is the >> > first 2BSD that had a bootable tape. >> >> Ah, my mistake. >> >> I think the loader also read just the first block, so woe betide you if >> you used a labelled tape... >> >> If I recall, VOL1, HDR1, etc. >> >> -- Dave > > -- > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual > --00000000000038ffaa05abd1ca0a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 6:16 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
Dave those are ANSI tape labels.=C2= =A0 Unix does not use them =C2=A0 =C2=A0DEC did although was inconsistent w= ith the use particularly WRT HDR2 records.=C2=A0 Tom Quarles (of spice 3 fa= me) wrote probably the best version for Unix to deal with them.=C2=A0 I bel= ieve I gave a copy but it will be in BSD 4.1 maybe 4.2 compiler syntax. I&#= 39;ll ask him if he ever updated it. Clem

How is that related to ans= itar.c?

Warner

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:55 AM Dave Horsfall <dave@ho= rsfall.org> wrote:
On Sat, = 25 Jul 2020, Warner Losh wrote:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Weren't V5/6/7/etc distributed as bootab= le tapes?=C2=A0 Set the switch
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0register to point to the tape instead of the= disk...
>
> Yes. They were. We have V6 and V7 tapes (and a V5 disk image). Likely =
> earlier versions likely did too.=C2=A0 What=C2=A0I'd meant was tha= t 2.8BSD is the
> first 2BSD that had a bootable tape.

Ah, my mistake.

I think the loader also read just the first block, so woe betide you if you used a labelled tape...

If I recall, VOL1, HDR1, etc.

-- Dave
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Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
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