From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9833338c for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2020 03:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C0D749CCC3; Sat, 8 Feb 2020 13:37:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6DB9CCAA; Sat, 8 Feb 2020 13:37:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="HTQDs8xH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 76F9B9CCAB; Sat, 8 Feb 2020 13:37:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f174.google.com (mail-qt1-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0EEA9CCA9 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2020 13:37:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f174.google.com with SMTP id w8so1000345qts.11 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 19:37:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QmvL4+/+bFeyVGntIdL8UfQ6MYc9hdoa5eqqfYPI1i4=; b=HTQDs8xHV3Xd+imunmbMxYfC4l1sUevHHyPLpuV0oFISh7o5eGL7yGlCkKttzG0LJy uTDOEVCrKSVbCjFXxn+09oQicKTQ6N05A0h/prSS6jBLR5dIKxloCzVhnLUqB9JjRidx MBS+YMjJ30Ww0vLQieFCRjYJsAUbJlS1jxZlc5QtgfUzI6Bb67Twh1eXYweIqiEkM/iT 8mzwqN0p/b9miHxrsC0pAHCdp65WQ2RFjxnxH4nTKW3q1alOmhbe3vJkwWHRKBQRIfRk qiWT3HhmI0u18iM4QS0D7Ta83SP399VRex6JuhjbnUdw+tzheC14HVCrPjnsTZQ8h1I7 f/UA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QmvL4+/+bFeyVGntIdL8UfQ6MYc9hdoa5eqqfYPI1i4=; b=LW42DnB4u0Ssac/htn3wgqJHWVTWMSBLhsTEEEG1JpYN44Ew1qaFPpO3H1bi9kcTn/ fUxJaMNZfyHj4W1/Nx5KlK8p9v2KhUDciCvnn1zPPfnOOwcK0tlcWQ1A08aNqCiMsmYI rJ2i8IjtoJUP+RAX8lzYh5dYfOs3OYDX6T3b5hkaDxzaknEvpbH7inwccOi05/FENXnD 31DZrtRpQY+VU8oiasEJneSVGwh0SCAIsAtDguE5Gz3qhDFr/T/7ak4t5BKHjs/rlTEm ibJQt+XqkNLE3mtQpPTj+Ov40CFl2fhZwfQKWN3BcMb/ac63eBhpDY0hCmG8FEycO15K HY9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVCiWsnE9UVUHm/9zdTLukJUayu3BUgyK3N0flTNBIJjpzUfI9K 8tESryoppvaWt+4FHrRuxW9DbLvodjGqHRF4iJFgxPAp X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxiavmj5G4jb48aM4RK5ihvdEFCVm/8uyKbehI3glz5R7Ifik3foa8XvTnzIDqELAJ1ZCzcRFmrJoDqEM+oOF4= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:78c:: with SMTP id l12mr1373719qth.187.1581133052771; Fri, 07 Feb 2020 19:37:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200208004352.GA4931@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20200208004352.GA4931@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 20:37:20 -0700 Message-ID: To: Warren Toomey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f41577059e083935" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Warner's Early Unix Presentation X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000f41577059e083935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 5:44 PM Warren Toomey wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:57:41AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote: > > Slightly more important: PWB also did not introduce > > the idea of the shell (neither did Unix, for that matter) ... > > Yes, we should ask Warner what he meant here. I thought perhaps he meant > a shell which allowed script > Yes. I meant the first shell that allowed real scripting. Also, another nitpick not just for Warner but for a few talks I've seen > over the past 12 months. TUHS is the Unix _Heritage_ Society not the > Unix Historical Society :-) > Doh! I don't mind either way, happy for us to get some attention! > > Cheers all, Warren > --000000000000f41577059e083935 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 5:44 PM Warren Toomey <wkt@tuhs.org> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:57:41AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Slightly more important: PWB also did not introduce
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the idea of the shell (neither did Unix, for that matter)= ...

Yes, we should ask Warner what he meant here. I thought perhaps he meant a shell which allowed script
=
Yes. I meant the first shell that allowed real = scripting.

Also, another nitpick not just for Warner but for a few talks I've seen=
over the past 12 months. TUHS is the Unix _Heritage_ Society not the
Unix Historical Society :-)
<= br>
Doh!

I don't mind either way, happy for us to get some attention!

Cheers all, Warren
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