From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30060 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2022 14:00:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Oct 2022 14:00:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DF6409FB; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:00:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f53.google.com (mail-ej1-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D0BC40010 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 00:00:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f53.google.com with SMTP id sc25so25452465ejc.12 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=i4scp30txgpdZuKj6uHtOBEHHiuIrwHF+/lWB85+HG8=; b=AWoRmTch1rG+7clb3WOzi1nkmyZzwhWIZc4xnNv7rqpn3B+48+EN/C/rOOy1sRzgqn xYiX4P4TRHFpYK9t8MOAzgMgjerLjlHndILCinxiavmecbnTuVjqwJtMu+gyZknLY7mR YVCm+McVrsfjwpbh1YW5+MF+8jzs3pZxNQN00hlDzJRLnnnYONc4+N5Yc4G6vBg6J3zA oPxSoGOCgCX6rhQSO5NMNHsU2RbvUslEpj8l0d7tL5vOsfkRkGjqD1eT9V0n/ycsbqOt m7t+7J8Q+Sm3WM9TShaQx3eBBlcwY4Oy/neydDBlosbzH6BiodFC8epJeEprIqjSMLtf igrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=i4scp30txgpdZuKj6uHtOBEHHiuIrwHF+/lWB85+HG8=; b=LHDvxelFj8Umgd6xQDR+2W7CyqASxiB4RQ/mkUcdPn3SQPnies4i/Ldts7jAFM7J0w 5hvYlaPKNUbPhXNjiFpZ0Ydd6N2rQTE943TtvQ2NY6SmtXDuvbr7GTDS13DHZtpB3YuT ngUgSW+5bTR5rTHAGVVBraq2NHRaLL7NcJuIp9pl6yV7YIVaCgXwWiMqacoL7FHknEV3 1Cr9qFYx2AQCVb5TyZRgIscdkXcPU1ZZO25Y9KLCs6EoSQEicrYHORFllhuoC0WhShv6 ofJMXRWkI0fVYJyp/FnSMRO9r90WAHob28U1ncm14XSRiM2AHjTg2NP2Q1wuyDTYuSKe qcoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3LsvjT4OQxT2fYgDnCM3IcjMmAvHUMRrj680u1qxUtlZOIk+Dh qIZoJ7G/wOWGHRrj7dWkFHCj9tHZMauG4VunrMlxUeKfalK0Gw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5bmj+onpWjVOsiQU4f3SLJIjsiKO14ObZxhxfFFMzAp0ZHGSsFvkMu3M5nszdRCwO9VYMSDhle05rG5MaFQ6A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:5dcc:b0:78d:e76a:ef23 with SMTP id p12-20020a1709065dcc00b0078de76aef23mr1551232ejv.317.1665496782450; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <992562BA-E21F-4542-A50B-6CFE8F7ACE86@planet.nl> <20221011134842.GA11780@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20221011134842.GA11780@mcvoy.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:59:31 -0600 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000017c7d205eac2b08d" Message-ID-Hash: WUINWUQ3OL7L7WZOVZTUOFENCYYQD6FL X-Message-ID-Hash: WUINWUQ3OL7L7WZOVZTUOFENCYYQD6FL X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Re.: Princeton's "Unix: An Oral History": who was in the team in "The Attic"? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000017c7d205eac2b08d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 7:49 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 01:15:38PM +0200, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS wrote: > > There is also another anecdote involving Atkinson. At some point all > Apple programmers had to file a weekly report with how many lines of code > they wrote that week. After a productive week of refactoring and > optimising, he filed a report saying "minus 2,000 lines". > > We bonused people for that. > I love commits like this, thought it wasn't refactoring so much as deleting obsolete code... commit c09981f1422ef0d44042dacc5d1265392fba39f1 Author: Warner Losh Date: Thu Dec 30 20:56:09 2021 -0700 mips: Remove sys/mips Remove sys/mips as the next step of decomissioning mips from the tree. Remove mips special cases from the kernel make files. Remove the mips specific linker scripts. Sponsored by: Netflix ... 594 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 134,562 deletions(-) --00000000000017c7d205eac2b08d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 7:49 AM Larry= McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2022= at 01:15:38PM +0200, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS wrote:
> There is also another anecdote involving Atkinson. At some point all A= pple programmers had to file a weekly report with how many lines of code th= ey wrote that week. After a productive week of refactoring and optimising, = he filed a report saying "minus 2,000 lines".

We bonused people for that.

I love comm= its like this, thought it wasn't refactoring so much as deleting obsole= te code...

commit c09981f1422ef0d44042dacc5d1265392fba3= 9f1
Author: Warner Losh <imp@FreeBSD.org>
Date: =C2=A0 Thu Dec = 30 20:56:09 2021 -0700

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mips: Remove sys/mips

= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Remove sys/mips as the next step of decomissioning mips from = the tree.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Remove mips special cases from the kernel make f= iles. Remove the mips
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 specific linker scripts.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sponsored by: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Netflix
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=C2=A0594 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 134,562 dele= tions(-)=C2=A0
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