From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28560 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2020 17:50:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jul 2020 17:50:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7D5E39BA61; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:50:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEA79BA32; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:49:14 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="B2CEx1IZ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 209129BA32; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:49:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f177.google.com (mail-qt1-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53B949BA30 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:49:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f177.google.com with SMTP id w27so13810115qtb.7 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WpTUpTvAQLi+Hm+rPaHL6oH8yiT+ghj+m1x+x+ZYTDM=; b=B2CEx1IZAMFM1Ue76VHbn8+9ZExJldPLhj2UTh8jhJPbkuNOtPjLNrGrYvRyXJMQ2t /t2QDehgA6PaNaqUTYga9ZmmbgtRkl7CScDvu6VSxd5P2jHmB60TbbY3KC/6C78yQoHZ Cnf1mIgO5X8LhTAyT4Dojp5cXB+wU3FkRp3RBUjt3Y/EGqKPcz+lKborC30eBx1a8M8a qk9sP/oedIj6N6peMd7FzeCCBgd/ugAojtRM+BTo5og68tyvo2MJrgCgl1RfIqJStXWv OOSXMaXDK1+f5uKOeT3kkQp40mFhOFiJHTTdcly8ZVVz7xqkz8hRV+RbowogYwtUxLBx zA7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WpTUpTvAQLi+Hm+rPaHL6oH8yiT+ghj+m1x+x+ZYTDM=; b=YO9DykUQNxYy1VfJoqVhcAsS5qs+AAbZu4F7PkqRCAVGoizRr4iSC4fKE6Kq+0CQmU V0A2juzbf9pfEV5JWgrZ3/FTJuSbWvyrugzr0MVH6bxJEHBJIgLrNwDMXY8GQ7LJnBEo mgQOlgEBhI8MBDOGYAXM5Nc7dLw3ekjKS6WEDZKA7hwmMuvVFPrFzIjPmYZE6+pkm642 JwJfxjrWoGA/LvZs6SwesGDOs8nl0ZpFb+MmoMc2vov8HVnrBxtwJfdlXhF4QAyNGK8x mu7nJIf8TDSw3hOrmQtiIWDsgFw8C2QVu+YNycE+xcSKXwOqFdTgd1UpsSX2T/Eur/So 187w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533rI9zcxKeVVdpS3nzLW3kpsP9Aqavs/+7zb1TYxTKXRv7FZb8U GiMfwuxhh8LjlAK6pnKEFxzPfXb4vDtU1JE4SYQLxGRtG4M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwBWH+FzPC7xXDwKtuMX0pGb2St9XUekM3XKqJCjYbB+CSFYgmRp2JlafWFuXGRO6j8liIGoFg3WhdPRtn2fjo= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4b47:: with SMTP id e7mr25695765qts.242.1595267351387; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <327c5b98-c48f-7855-0503-9c0f503af09c@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <327c5b98-c48f-7855-0503-9c0f503af09c@gmail.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:49:00 -0600 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cd3d3305aae31fba" Subject: Re: [TUHS] 211BSD Version in the Unix Archive X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000cd3d3305aae31fba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:46 AM Will Senn wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm currently doing some work with 211BSD and the best version that I've > come across for my investigations is the one put together by Andre Luvisi, > based on the distro in the Unix Archive at > https://tuhs.v6shell.org/UnixArchiveMirror/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD > You should look at the canonical tuhs archive at https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD/ > So far as I can figure out (and I'm a little bit fuzzy around the edges), > this appears to be patch level 431, at least according to > https://tuhs.v6shell.org/UnixArchiveMirror/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD/VERSION. > I have a number of questions that hopefully, someone can shed some light on: > 1. Is it really pl 431? > Yes. It is. > 2. How can I tell? > VERSION is always updated, so it is. If you are in doubt, you can look at the patch files that's at https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD/Patches/ and they all update VERSION. > 3. Is it the latest tape image available (I've seen plenty of disk images, > but those are already installed)? > Yes. Well, almost. https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD_patch457/ has a tape that's updated to 457, lacking only the last 12 changes. A most current tape hasn't been regenerated, at least in the archives. A quick search of github shows there's a few PiDP-11 oriented versions but I've not looked closely at them. > 4. Is there a howto bring it up to the next patch level document lying > around somewhere? > There's two or three efforts to create shell scripts to apply the patches. I've not looked closely at them all yet... > I've seen Warner's work on going the other direction and that's > fascinating in it's own right, but I'd like to see about patching up to > latest > When my work is done, there will be a github repo that has all the changes applied, one at a time which can be used to generate context diffs or something else that can be pushed to the PDP-11s that can be updated. Warner --000000000000cd3d3305aae31fba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:46 AM Will= Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
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Hi All,

I'm currently doing some work with 211BSD and the best version that I've come across for my investigations is the one put together by Andre Luvisi, based on the distro in the Unix Archive at https://tuhs.v6shell.org/UnixArchiveMirror/Di= stributions/UCB/2.11BSD

Yo= u should look at the canonical tuhs archive at=C2=A0https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/D= istributions/UCB/2.11BSD/
=C2=A0
So far as I can figure out (and I'm a little bit fuzzy around the edges), this appears to be patch level 431, at least according to https://tuhs.v6shell.org/UnixArchiveMirror/= Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD/VERSION. I have a number of questions that hopefully, someone can shed some light on:


=
1. Is it really pl 431?

<= div>Yes.=C2=A0 It is.
=C2=A0
2. How = can I tell?

VERSION is alw= ays updated, so it is. If you are in doubt, you can look at the patch files= that's at=C2=A0https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD= /Patches/=C2=A0and they all update VERSION.
=C2=A0
3. Is it the latest tape image available (I've seen plenty of dis= k images, but those are already installed)?

Yes. Well, almost.=C2=A0https://www.tuhs.org/Archiv= e/Distributions/UCB/2.11BSD_patch457/ has a tape that's updated to = 457, lacking only the last 12 changes. A most current tape hasn't been = regenerated, at least in the archives. A quick search of github shows there= 's a few PiDP-11 oriented versions but I've not looked closely at t= hem.
=C2=A0
4. Is there a howto bring it up to the next patch level document lying around somewhere?

<= div>There's two or three efforts to create shell scripts to apply the p= atches. I've not looked closely at them all yet...
=C2=A0
I've seen Warner's work on going the other direction and that= 's fascinating in it's own right, but I'd like to see about patc= hing up to latest
=C2=A0
When my w= ork is done, there will be a github repo that has all the changes applied, = one at a time which can be used to generate context diffs or something else= that can be pushed to the PDP-11s that can be updated.

Warner
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