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From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
Cc: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: SCO's "evidence" (was: RIP Darl McBride former CEO of SCO)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:01:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfrgBveTR84xRyUPCZNeDTzkAncnFr35V0COyb6WiA35Uw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exYJpP1L_qCFDyAageSdQ+6vb9=MtbsTBkSwfGK=4tSHC_w@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 11:52 AM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> I keep wondering if this assertion of code difference or lack thereof can
> be tested. Are not all these sources available? Which bits are missing?
>

Yes. Great question.

https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pmap/pmap.32v
https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pmap/pmap.4.2
https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pmap/pmap.4.3
https://people.freebsd.org/~imp/pmap/pmap.net.2

has the functions as I extracted them for the diff numbers I posted before.
The TUHS archive links
are at:

https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V7/usr/sys/sys/subr.c
https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=4BSD/usr/src/sys/sys/subr.c
https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=4.2BSD/usr/src/sys/sys/ufs_bmap.c
https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=4.3BSD/usr/src/sys/sys/ufs_bmap.c
https://github.com/sergev/4.4BSD-Lite2/blob/master/usr/
src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_bmap.c

in case anybody wants to check my math or characterizations about the
differences.

Warner


> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 9:55 AM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>     > From: Warner Losh
>>
>>     >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 8:14PM Larry McVoy wrote:
>>
>>     >> The bmap implementations I saw were bit for bit identical, same
>> code,
>>     >> same variables, same style, same indentation. I'm 100% sure they
>> were
>>     >> not independent.
>>
>>     > They are different in 4.3BSD. They are different in 4.2BSD (but less
>>     > different). The underlying filesystems are different on disk, so
>> they
>>     > routines have to be different.
>>
>> That last sentence points out something important that people need to
>> remember
>> in this discussion: in between 4.1 and 4.2 (technically, in 4.1B), BSD
>> switched to the BSD Fast File System, so I very much doubt that the
>> low-level
>> (i.e. logical file block to disk block) file system code in anything after
>> 4.1A looks much like the AT+T low-level file system code. (I have no idea
>> how
>> the BSD code compares to the Linux file system code, but that's between
>> the
>> Linux people, and Berkeley.)
>>
>>         Noel
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-05 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-05 17:55 Noel Chiappa
2024-11-05 18:52 ` ron minnich
2024-11-05 19:01   ` Warner Losh [this message]
     [not found]     ` <CAEoi9W66zUf8RvzEYQG7qNXN-BX6gyDejXCrHw3rk46UM_-XPg@mail.gmail.com>
2024-11-08 20:27       ` Warner Losh
     [not found]         ` <61F8BCE5-44C5-49D2-BEFE-B8717E3DDEA8@kdbarto.org>
     [not found]           ` <CANCZdfrJExbrJqp3MgE0Tp9-a=PYTeFpkULk8NnPfBTeoyLW-g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-11-08 23:18             ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Warner Losh
2024-11-09  0:40               ` [TUHS] " rob
2024-11-05 18:58 ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05 20:25   ` [TUHS] Copyrights and copying.. [was SCO's "evidence" (was: RIP Darl McBride former CEO of SCO)] Christian Hopps
2024-11-05 20:35     ` [TUHS] " Warner Losh
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-11-04  1:17 [TUHS] RIP Darl McBride former CEO of SCO Will Senn
2024-11-04  2:31 ` [TUHS] " Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-11-04  3:34   ` Wesley Parish
2024-11-04 17:35     ` Marc Rochkind
2024-11-04 22:50       ` [TUHS] SCO's "evidence" (was: RIP Darl McBride former CEO of SCO) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-11-05  0:05         ` [TUHS] " Marc Rochkind
2024-11-05  0:39           ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05  1:09             ` Larry McVoy
2024-11-05  1:32               ` ron minnich
2024-11-05  1:39                 ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05  3:14                 ` Larry McVoy
2024-11-05  5:00                   ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05  1:35               ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05  1:54                 ` Larry McVoy
2024-11-05  2:13                   ` Warner Losh
2024-11-05  3:14                     ` Marc Rochkind
2024-11-07 20:41                       ` ron minnich
2024-11-07 20:59                         ` Marc Rochkind
2024-11-08  0:03                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-08  0:35                             ` Warner Losh
2024-11-09 18:29                           ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-11-09 20:30                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-09 22:23                               ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-11-10  4:27                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-12  1:55                       ` Kevin Bowling
2024-11-12  2:34                         ` Kevin Bowling
2024-11-12 18:12                           ` Marc Rochkind

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