From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22284 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2022 17:00:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Nov 2022 17:00:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882F441790; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:00:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com (mail-ej1-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E46954178E for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 03:00:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id ho10so20681025ejc.1 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:00:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nhxRHVHclZSLIb3yWsh+F4dwaEkbOvBKJDErjiBR/Ss=; b=lJx8Ej7LH7QuDii1ou2wyZI1UNN9A5wMjB+4ujPg9q7Rx+05hYEkCDHddoR9hjDdcx XP4AbK3k8jh3j7IE6ALiyE8dN40xGQuIJZQrdXnba61dNwoyPm3g0ehBBC62tCRLhffI 6cH57yba9g2Dd/O4hvbQ1qVj0tm7p0mICHenq3M+MEMkVcYhC3cXUaJQi8nr5laEVfOS 88Umqo0VmBE7SKoBjHFV6faT7WW6vHpEH1DkciIF1ek2MHN+1ZVEh71g3OOuLj2GtRaP kimTFYKYNFW3at58YAUNl7N3FBJ+Fqsliu089oty3f2Jv5bk+WmriTDRQrPNt8PXXy/b GyZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nhxRHVHclZSLIb3yWsh+F4dwaEkbOvBKJDErjiBR/Ss=; b=oEXuT0QsxfPrWY4KjO+j9KOHZbPKulb8eTWQCfME38GpdB2KzxsjKHdUR5c5SG1w5j JxhCI5xd/mLQ5RsdkHKHcZn2y6BSmFZFuBv6QAA2Fn4m5HE5/ogSyMymC5BdaBwVtUL3 pgIr0n+lZza8mWaqJaVLt7qGgkWuSehCejU2Xkl+RXSsp8S/kgIFYUcgYEuOjBrPwp25 70BchbwKylHFgy8f82U0jxd9lGOGxxbFfbHB+M8Spgz/twNlDYI5Mc869JfMIQaom0k7 Ih47B4vhX+7WZj5RckLv78wbW0gb/8kC8YiXBVCCF7aYZumn/MBBohVJC96OHJIRKWqH 3cew== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pm0ptwjen79nYkigTRWzDL1pUwfqXCDZQSgquDP+NMRoukNAvLE 7THm4vsrkb2P9g80PMIamKmB2kXZETYGARh43Em2Qg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4V80v9WVtr2ZhhxhGVKzWUWwlSCIhrgTQVjkYSGncjaYuxxSJUEt7CWhiw0+UL8MkIWASEnwj7QUDOImnB4O4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:114a:b0:790:b74b:abf2 with SMTP id i10-20020a170906114a00b00790b74babf2mr40199241eja.634.1669568362312; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:59:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> <20221126191827.GV18011@mcvoy.com> <764dda08-f358-4c74-8056-ef8fc80bcaac@app.fastmail.com> <20221126232323.GX18011@mcvoy.com> <20221127001714.GY18011@mcvoy.com> <202211270443.2AR4hofO067295@ultimate.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:59:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: Ron Natalie Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002a0e6805ee76ad31" Message-ID-Hash: DRRRJW77ZTE7U7LERM3R7P525FZHFEJL X-Message-ID-Hash: DRRRJW77ZTE7U7LERM3R7P525FZHFEJL X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000002a0e6805ee76ad31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 9:11 AM Ron Natalie wrote: > > . But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 served as a doorstop. > > > Shades of the jerq terminal. The J prefix persiste in the code long > after the nickname was quashed. > > > Being in charge of the Rutgers computer center, we were gifted a lot of > ATT hardware. We had one 3B20 (now that was a pure piece of phone > equipment, you shut it down by turning a switch inside and holding the > button down until it twanged. Just like putting an old 303 modem into > loop back). We also got three 3B5's (noted for the one installed in the > New Brunswick computing room that got completely drenched when a pipe burst > and kept on running) and countless of the 3B2s. I chortled in that > unless you were logged in as root, you couldn't work the power switch. > Yanking the cord out of the wall was still and option. > When I worked for The Wollongong Group, we had a 3b2, 3b5 and 3b20 for all the networking products we had. The 3b20 was nice. The 3b5 wasn't terrible.... the 3b2 was the only machine I've seen that I could visibly see the characters appear one at a time over the telnet session for some, but not all, programs. Those programs, iirc, used stdio, but the stdio on the 3b2 didn't have buffering turned on... Warner > --0000000000002a0e6805ee76ad31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 9:11 AM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:
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. B= ut everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 served as a doorstop.
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Shades of the jerq terminal. = =C2=A0 =C2=A0The J prefix persiste in the code long after the nickname was = quashed.


Being in charge of the Rutgers computer center, we were gifted a lot= of ATT hardware. =C2=A0 We had one 3B20 (now that was a pure piece of phon= e equipment, you shut it down by turning a switch inside and holding the bu= tton down until it twanged. =C2=A0 Just like putting an old 303 modem into = loop back). =C2=A0 We also got three 3B5's (noted for the one installed= in the New Brunswick computing room that got completely drenched when a pi= pe burst and kept on running) and countless of the 3B2s. =C2=A0 =C2=A0I cho= rtled in that unless you were logged in as root, you couldn't work the = power switch. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yanking the cord out of the wall was still and o= ption.


When I worked for The Woll= ongong Group, we had a 3b2, 3b5 and 3b20 for all the networking products we= had. The 3b20 was nice. The 3b5 wasn't terrible.... the 3b2 was the on= ly machine I've seen that I could visibly see the characters appear one= at a time over the telnet session for some, but not all, programs. Those p= rograms, iirc, used stdio, but the stdio on the 3b2 didn't have bufferi= ng turned on...

Warner
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