From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ca1ef191 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9E8A99BD07; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:47:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8159BC99; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:46:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="nfzxOoU8"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E5D779BC99; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:46:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E73769BC42 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:46:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id p13so2193955qkg.13 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 05:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=siZHrg4ZdLgwWKkCCEr1OFq4gsEG4DSJdRvs1Fcoq4M=; b=nfzxOoU8q7hKpcdTDjhTA5sduhPuvcoEunnPsfvn2NAtyJjf9uP5Tw611l/Kc2N4Ie pF/8CuA87j9CjSWOnkD5KR6+byRqtV7NpCBWCWHIedfgfY4VpnzFBU71FFnTP1UL7ljW 55vExkqIGDMIMSIfvoM+oA/e+O6+NmByA4BqE8NdgBn4gX0DCFg3gLurg4C3T8S4w+UH 3Ryk9Un8RFtpnernImf+soQKgK+/C+hrujOGzWm2FYCsPI3pTg+TOX7yqUbmHeW4c2BW smGgVzylefCR9MyxM4Qdqv6t2MwYHb3SbfxUub9OnqfNNwga/N6hUGzcRbASt3i2TATv fupg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=siZHrg4ZdLgwWKkCCEr1OFq4gsEG4DSJdRvs1Fcoq4M=; b=JVXjP9nKR8Gtri/4aTBWyoLHyseuWnaxmw9zcCqRVqrzdAVsDgev5TyH7zlA/sP8UH QUxYf2cYVigHE3YdANDPifW4blqqsInMv3xYiTh5vlMADEOKvixURrzel/8wJUhyrzyC tmwg9ELie/Q5wR4gUlu5TVZUPeLcGdlk2TEBzU1ridf2pQjlzTTMnQaLfJpsqk98eQtf LSYn2sPG7M4/7tl2wkV97mkswCsp9gk3LKZuGGDnn+eqZDSbmKGdRA6OkxMJU+SkqSnJ pZkwTOoypWrfzF3eUUe/LqoFZj4oakOFWjVFfnsCT/E+XK6kJptjX5LzES81DU/eYsnA QTJw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUQ9GMK7+kp8U2bTwwLlzkrXd8DbRmnPjj5ZSiPa67IQobKVOqq 9O+WaYrXHLqTj+lE+IxlrdXNnJf2rImAXqfZCQykfA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqykp1sLVVgetU0Rp+7yYsmLWeh6mW+s78B8qAk+7rLPOQLgeALo9wpRnmYJqDmS1Ss5LGR22WWNPthL9Xr+xzY= X-Received: by 2002:a37:4804:: with SMTP id v4mr3854090qka.60.1566996412836; Wed, 28 Aug 2019 05:46:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <75a32043-4830-ba04-ee0f-023c5f5ade3f@gmail.com> <20190827003013.GS13570@mcvoy.com> <312b39a1-2944-100f-55e0-fc65b504d43d@kilonet.net> <20190827024511.GU13570@mcvoy.com> <20190827145556.GD13570@mcvoy.com> <20190827224002.GB15511@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:46:41 -0600 Message-ID: To: Wesley Parish Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008d428d05912cc8c9" Subject: Re: [TUHS] If not Linux, then what? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000008d428d05912cc8c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 12:19 AM Wesley Parish wrote: > Speaking of OSI stacks, I know 4.4BSD Lite came with some fragments of > one. OSI's dead and hardly mourned these days, but did anyone in the > Unix world ever get beyond the 4.4BSD fragmentary implementation? > The Wollongong Group has OSI for various flavors of Sustem V and System III running on the 3B* family, 386 and a few others. I recall setting them up for interop in the summer of 1989. Warner Wesley Parish > > > On 8/28/19, George Michaelson wrote: > > oh maybe I meant "streams" not "STREAMS" I always got confused if the > > original ritchie spec was upper or lower case. Charles Forsyth coded > > it into the York Uni Vaxen, worked fine. I left shortly after to do > > stuff at UCL, it only came back into my life when at UQ in Australia > > we got an ICL "certified" SYSV host and along side dead technology > > like RFS up it popped (I think ICL had coded an OSI stack we were > > testing) > > > > -G > > > < snip > > --0000000000008d428d05912cc8c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 12:19 AM Wesley Parish <wobblygong@gmail.com> wrote:
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Speaking of OSI stacks, I know 4.4BSD L= ite came with some fragments of
one. OSI's dead and hardly mourned these days, but did anyone in the Unix world ever get beyond the 4.4BSD fragmentary implementation?

The Wollon= gong Group has OSI for various flavors of Sustem V and System III running o= n the 3B* family, 386 and a few others. I recall setting them up for intero= p in the summer of 1989.

Warner

Wesley Parish


On 8/28/19, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
> oh maybe I meant "streams" not "STREAMS" I always = got confused if the
> original ritchie spec was upper or lower case. Charles Forsyth coded > it into the York Uni Vaxen, worked fine. I left shortly after to do > stuff at UCL, it only came back into my life when at UQ in Australia > we got an ICL "certified" SYSV host and along side dead tech= nology
> like RFS up it popped (I think ICL had coded an OSI stack we were
> testing)
>
> -G
>
< snip >
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