From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4e942ec3 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0D7A19B923; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:32:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74A94811; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:32:27 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="RRDcWDJ0"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CF96A93D91; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:32:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-f66.google.com (mail-ed1-f66.google.com [209.85.208.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068E693D8C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:32:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-f66.google.com with SMTP id r18so9986059eds.13 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 06:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OX2TtfUQS8FLZ6tkvxi9Xt9/5xxNRoNIrx01LOlX32A=; b=RRDcWDJ0CIeyrC1JBYhi91WJ6AEeikvjYjXVVfUHmZuEjttWFMoGj3PwqnsgJXx1CI e1CUagyoharHBf3sLPdx8Z1N8gWeKNRuqJcXJxd3FjaOKMZAmGAbP82yFe1vdqpaXJi0 DUhVguLX+hR+3+l3Xh6ebWLY6oxg3K0rpaYUgb7j73aipK4AZ/KV49fR38yRWxUlqu9F BLJKhCdluLbkTOSdlmkFJxKuKBSX+QzpVgPg0YE3Ce6ZlEyBCaZ33/iz4kqQmEjlWoor 6R42O/bv2cKEaCizoNATphXvG5BMl1fFoj3BmCH+3zZTzccLMAKQqia2lTfsVbjySKe6 6ltw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OX2TtfUQS8FLZ6tkvxi9Xt9/5xxNRoNIrx01LOlX32A=; b=ATGzxlbEohXf29IPIpabv4kaA9jq5tLhovxCupLe4ipE4+bTOSk0iIMCqtDxhrBkSF 6lwzNXefc6jEQcxFAuWWfENtMu9dcDcV9Zpkcd2XWEfJ121bKxoQTAjLQ+YFKbc+HF18 b3jjG1yfnG8y3w92s+tBrsLsCimcviDFHHEToD6wxPsnxd3l0SgJdIWj2Y4Sxd2IuK+y oFV6r3yqgHdvKa0WrHKH5KcODOzEMkQu+B49NEknfPqZ+qidji9JzP8iNqg3oAJfqW69 GOSwkQwV5FYGNsVzrgSnDFLJ46DrJpFExBAWdSBf/FddYTT4uxfsUnvCFIHawbGejO3n ct5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVdVTrR7yI9YnKvnuNlpooKJrQkV+EbWxB+wOMV304JVVu0bFHO 3LAX5JD2gyWqfz7FmBGbRRKFEfxoOMqJuFQLH3dHJG7bfvw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzD45l5nzN/ArEH1ol9R9WXDa362qM1IrFZHsU+CudnaJopn1P48XHukZYmIN2y3JSoqy8Gc7Jun/wtoZsiAZ8= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c513:: with SMTP id o19mr24660075edq.75.1571664742397; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 06:32:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191021062242.GA91599@indra.papnet.eu> In-Reply-To: From: Abhinav Rajagopalan Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:01:45 +0530 Message-ID: To: Thomas Paulsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ad3b3305956bb656" Subject: Re: [TUHS] PDP-7 UNIX filesystem X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ad3b3305956bb656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks, didn't mean it as a GNU thing at all. Sure, mkdir would've existed back in research Unix too. My experience has only been limited to the Linux envs, which is why I was led to attribute mkdir to the evolution in mknod(), I only know that they all either descended down from SysV or BSD, those who have used the real Unices would know better. Seeing as I haven't had the privilege of using any except briefly on an emulator. On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:30 PM Thomas Paulsen wrote: > > > Also, I only now realized that only mknod existed, up until a long time, > > > > only later on with the GNU coreutils did mkdir as a command come into > > existence. Running the PDP-11 v7 on SIMH showed that, gotten so > accustomed > > > > to the Linux env that thinking backwards seemed suddenly arcane. > > > that's not true. mkdir isn't a GNU invention. Its much older. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkdir#History > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/mknod.2.html > > > -- Abhinav Rajagopalan --000000000000ad3b3305956bb656 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks,= didn't mean it as a GNU thing at all. Sure, mkdir would've existed= back in research Unix too. My experience has only been limited to the Linu= x envs, which is why I was led to attribute mkdir to the evolution in mknod= (), I only know that they all either descended down from SysV or BSD, thos= e who have used the real Unices would know better. Seeing as I haven't = had the privilege of using any except briefly on an emulator.=C2=A0

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 5:30 PM Thomas Paulsen <thomas.paulsen@firemail.de= > wrote:

> Also, I only now realized that only mknod existed, up until a long tim= e,
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> only later on with the GNU coreutils did mkdir as a command come into<= br> > existence. Running the PDP-11 v7 on SIMH showed that, gotten so accust= omed
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> to the Linux env that thinking backwards seemed suddenly arcane.
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that's not true. mkdir isn't a GNU invention. Its much older.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkdir#History
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/mknod.2.html




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