From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 141105f8 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2018 16:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 38858A20A4; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:23:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A02A1A9A; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:23:32 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=Zu6qWfzJ; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 65026A1A9A; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:23:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-it0-f41.google.com (mail-it0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCE9EA1A90 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 02:23:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-it0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d10-v6so12777160itj.5 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=F/4TM0gMXMd9f/n9TKGKkq40Ib3rJFTZkS+1BLzKRmw=; b=Zu6qWfzJOXQXy68ZBUPuObhMAGugfdQDN28HthhwsC4wZwL1MIaO5ej/c9SQD5dkmx y55f+nXBevtbuqoog0HzI16WY7DSpHjlOlHqGsLArvyEHjASiXOJ2PuDo3tpx7PgSPNS Ja01Cn+ftycX+P1/WZvgGcqTCsuNfcyOBF0HBUMhGz4ZImi8fatUPaM/n5qS10MpHP0w GhXKBnRpmDA702WgPvBVI43e/8uw+XTUksHRZQcZn2tfSKS5XDiK963lO3tFPgbFsSHY Erhx8aDoMi8aR90wRhuuxOCiOfGINN/xPvX7NAukmyPVvTIribjlE721U5KyeydTexm6 D9rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=F/4TM0gMXMd9f/n9TKGKkq40Ib3rJFTZkS+1BLzKRmw=; b=ViATYXvbxy71pbEAO/LPTkDSX8asnRDmrtEfzRu6lf7fW+2ANZ7bAsnQQ74G+SPqbc Vlw2m8CkBRy9Mm5V1jLXarGl3ghX9z3lEf3QiEleFCfcLubJJ/6YC33xbxWEuUF9N+8y w3nLW2RVzd521DtSPjt6HAGozC6Np8UVFmvZlXZ1gmMM5uSeEXwN1j4Y6R9MR8eWO55D kNq9/gQDyYJht46vakwAD/b39Ru+pKg7oc267VJETqYCV0MxlQzeLM3gOUe6DXYTRuJN iOWC0bzqjYlALrcJgQCm+CsqbjWs54Mq/O6A1eEF8r5ngdU5Zy6jH3KUFGDiyaracAMC nbEA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CcGRSqGLW+cY1kbNl+JmGjNQOECNgqhugKiw/xrojX2gbG5YOr 4s+AVlB0nlQMuoSAAh88L7nwDzp/86jpt8RitIk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZH9kiVYVIcEXWDk18zZJN2sQpE0nxckJZVl6ojtwNzY8E34Fyt1rgDAONBWb+N/R8/Q6tK9rGV+FO2tHDfsC8= X-Received: by 2002:a02:88ad:: with SMTP id n42-v6mr17047004jaj.38.1535905408066; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <899D86D7-1601-4FDA-869A-10EC46500D0D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Charles Anthony Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:23:15 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000041acf30574e5d8e1" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Public access multics X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000041acf30574e5d8e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 6:07 AM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, John P. Linderman wrote: > > > PL/I was a language designed by a committee, and it showed. [...] > > I have never seen a full-blown PL/I compiler (only subsets), and I recall > being told that there never will be one because it is simply impossible, > given the spec. > > Naturally I am happy to be proven wrong on this. > > AM83 Multics PL1 Reference Manual, pg 1-1: "Multics PL/I is closely related to American National Standards Programming Language PL/I. ... ANSI X3.53-1976... For a complete description of the differences between Multics PL/I and Standard PL/I, see Appendix A of the PL/I Language Specification." Appendix A, pp A-1 to A-4: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12wRW7vgCVTP4bL7942YiEEUQc2J9bWes https://drive.google.com/open?id=1McndftW6HPioowfIAmL1P8WhabpvYeWg https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XJdaj8YGHTERjTu9xq3KEM0nAGiAFm2M https://drive.google.com/open?id=18VdXROFQmkm_9zL1XLHZCeOxiPLmWDMD -- Charles -- Dave > --00000000000041acf30574e5d8e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun= , Sep 2, 2018 at 6:07 AM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, John P. Linderman wrote:

> PL/I was a language designed by a committee, and it showed. [...]

I have never seen a full-blown PL/I compiler (only subsets), and I recall <= br> being told that there never will be one because it is simply impossible, given the spec.

Naturally I am happy to be proven wrong on this.


AM83 Multics PL1 Reference Manual, pg = 1-1: "Multics PL/I is closely related to American National Standards P= rogramming Language PL/I. ... ANSI X3.53-1976... For a complete description= of the differences between Multics PL/I and Standard PL/I, see Appendix A = of the PL/I Language Specification."

Appendix= A, pp A-1 to A-4:
https://d= rive.google.com/open?id=3D1XJdaj8YGHTERjTu9xq3KEM0nAGiAFm2M

-- Charles


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-- Dave
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