From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: steve.mynott@gmail.com (Steve Mynott) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:12:08 +0000 Subject: [TUHS] OT: trains [Was: Date madness] In-Reply-To: <20171217212400.x7r3lwqopjzs5g5o@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> References: <1513203404.29181.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <201712140024.vBE0OZQC079168@elf.torek.net> <024e01d37752$f1e95260$d5bbf720$@ronnatalie.com> <02cd01d37772$a37865b0$ea693110$@ronnatalie.com> <20171217212400.x7r3lwqopjzs5g5o@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> Message-ID: On 17 December 2017 at 21:24, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-17 15:07, Ron Natalie wrote: > >> Amtrak has an amusing way of handling the time change. A train just >> never departs before it's published time. This means in the spring; >> the trains just tend to run an hour late (or later than normal). In >> the fall, the train sits at whatever station it had arrived at before >> 2 AM and waits until the clock catches up. > > How do other train systems handle it, e.g. the European intercity system? A thread on https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/about-the-clocks-going-forward.43348/ suggests the UK practice (at least in 2011) as documented in the "Weekly Operating Notice" for the time change week is: "trains to due to commence their journey before 0100 should run as if GMT still applies. Trains due to commence their journey at or after 0200 will run at BST. Train crew booking on times should be adjusted accordingly. Any times between 0100 and 0200 should clearly indicate whether they are BST or GMT." A quick google suggests other railway companies might generally handle this problem differently with Sweden claimed to use the Amtrak solution of waiting an hour so probably domestic European train practice differs. I would guess international trains might function as aircraft and use local time. The timetabling for such trains is more likely to regularly use different time zones anyway. I wonder how Amtrak handles different time zones within the US? -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott