From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19029 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2023 01:13:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2023 01:13:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E492142413; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:13:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f50.google.com (mail-vs1-f50.google.com [209.85.217.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 979504240F for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:13:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f50.google.com with SMTP id j185so460562vsc.13 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:13:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LKsskP4T4giWoQfZorL/actEV02+lDKu1oD24OSXhkQ=; b=Hp8AWciAfR+S4Fsk3aqRhtJoEbulTDJSP9BBMoEQU8g/18yGFL92kSrUQcS+ef52u8 zBqW+j3eeNXUURvEejbjLusz/U4GVMlrXg1tS8UaK/5DdidyeGRlLzMjh3A08qh0cKTI H9Nh6nfjKhTN1WwYWBtAUUq8We6v6puplftmkuNqBwapN/KI+7YgPiHrD5hKHZTA5rcE hWPzvCwD+vdGwKPJJdqoXujY1fR5wn5+vEjOFHjMW2I5et9H+iq4NmnsUuDv/iisy52N E79eWhODg3wCux5uEtM/sVo77h40gW+L6AQgbC+ZZP/ARxQYruHZIqWLn6y7OtloUGP0 2d6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=LKsskP4T4giWoQfZorL/actEV02+lDKu1oD24OSXhkQ=; b=7HexPCll1Tats9Qd+Db0BTICZmT9mmfNRAX7IsOp4IJHmPdMHJ0hoN24ITA8TkCkkz eulOW11EQ7iwkCBiwhlFIQ8GGlMrOS8mllV4mjnjPXdMfC86zOvaoVdhbssHVk2t+ZPj RyD97Qv1pqOKz0x/jWb2IosTW0NUleTn6d4DcGwjqt/lDMWrVnbETlpYEomwFDkDXAlB mHM3QDiiBxFwqKDgSd317nyPRnHxVnfdQgkF8j/INjkbhX0iz4QBIUnXbKtMO8KA8yPm /uzzunLmdDW34Cr04cWm9EeVMYpE9tpzUh+j+gsmzEpnA7w9zIx8hC9owPw6eB2QGD7M oSFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2krtLwknJj+y12rlD+NOAqT+n5ioEpjmmiR09OlgqLAC37uYoL9r vxgYlxPMUpoKiGatT2iRgE/8NCW8tHvfsBKRMBI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXsVAvoWkHC/GxGn2cXB23iCKBhAAGqcCkyNeMeAs0Eol+i6NdsAhXv1A2qAvAxp9t/Apz/SyPFlz1zCYo/PFnQ= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ee4d:0:b0:3d3:d863:551d with SMTP id g13-20020a67ee4d000000b003d3d863551dmr4699237vsp.60.1674695558586; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:12:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tom Lyon Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: To: Joseph Holsten Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e0664d05f3207118" Message-ID-Hash: I3FBWBNDYU2SHBPYE4RR2Q34XX6NRG3B X-Message-ID-Hash: I3FBWBNDYU2SHBPYE4RR2Q34XX6NRG3B X-MailFrom: pugs78@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e0664d05f3207118 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe the term "workstation" came from the integrated interactive engineering design terminals/systems. Can't remember details, but companies like ComputerVision had had them before UNIX and 68000 were a thing, On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:31 PM Joseph Holsten wrote: > It seems like there are bountiful articles able the decline and fall of > the UNIX workstation, but I=E2=80=99ve had a hard time finding narrative = about > workstations prior to the Stanford SUN workstation. > > * was the SUN-1 the first commercially successful product? What are the > =E2=80=9Cit depends=E2=80=9D edge cases? > * were there common recipes for proto-workstations within academic or > industrial research? What did those look like, who was involved? > * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a > PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is i= t > the integration of display into the system that differentiates? > > -- > Joseph Holsten > http://josephholsten.com > mailto:joseph@josephholsten.com > tel:+1-360-927-7234 <(360)%20927-7234> > --000000000000e0664d05f3207118 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe the term "workstation" came from the i= ntegrated interactive engineering design terminals/systems.=C2=A0 Can't= remember details, but companies like ComputerVision had had them before UN= IX and 68000 were a thing,

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:31 PM Joseph Holsten &l= t;joseph@josephholsten.com&= gt; wrote:
It seems like there are bountiful articles able the decline an= d fall of the UNIX workstation, but I=E2=80=99ve had a hard time finding na= rrative about workstations prior to the Stanford SUN workstation.

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* was the SUN-1 the first commercially successful product? What a= re the =E2=80=9Cit depends=E2=80=9D edge cases?
* were there comm= on recipes for proto-workstations within academic or industrial research? W= hat did those look like, who was involved?
* What do I really mea= n by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a PDP-11 with a single term= inal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it the integration of displa= y into the system that differentiates?=C2=A0

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