Indeed, IBM had quite broad support for NFS. There's a whole chapter in this Redbook (1993) about OS/2 NFS clients working with AIX, MVS, VM, and OS/2 servers. https://ia801201.us.archive.org/11/items/gg243531/gg243531_TCPIP_2_0_for_OS2_Installation_and_Interoperability.pdf On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 5:54 PM Charles H. Sauer (he/him) < sauer@technologists.com> wrote: > On 8/13/2025 7:31 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:18:34AM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:00 AM Douglas McIlroy > >> wrote: > >>> I was always sorry that Peter Weinberger's RFS never made it outside > >>> Bell Labs. It allowed networking between separately administered > >>> systems by mapping UIDs. > >> > >> I believe it did? If I recall correctly, it was available with System > >> V, though perhaps I am misremembering. > >> > >> I have no doubt that RFS was technically superior to NFS, but Sun had > >> non-technical market advantages. Assuming that I am remembering > >> correctly, I suspect it was unsuccessful commercially for two reasons: > >> > >> 1. Sun gave NFS (and the associated RPC layer) away for free, under a > >> particularly liberal license, which lead to lots of interoperability > >> (Larry's and Dave's comments notwithstanding). I suspect by the time > >> RFS was available, it was much more expensive and less interoperable > >> across heterogeneous systems. > > > > The NFS reference code was licensed under NDA with some cost involved > > according to Rick Macklem who wrote the NFS code in 4.3BSD-Reno. > > > > Rick Macklem post to comp.protocols.nfs Aug 6, 1999 > > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.protocols.nfs/c/npQbxPe_ZeQ/m/Z_yQcsh56mkJ > > > > The userland RPC part was under different terms. > > > > "Sun will publish the source code for the user-level libraries that > > implement RPC and XDR." > > > > Bill Shannon post to net.unix-wizards Jan 13, 1985 > > > https://groups.google.com/g/net.unix-wizards/c/PkJdZgCbrC4/m/u0kt3eeFSt4J > > > > Sun RPC sources were later posted to mod.sources and included > > on USENIX tapes. > > That's consistent with my memory. In particular, if I recall correctly, > when I was still at IBM and we wanted to include NFS in AIX 3, it was > challenging ($$$) to negotiate a satisfactory license for NFS, but we > eventually obtained a license to include NFS in all IBM products (not > just AIX). > -- > voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com > fax: +1.512.346.5240 Web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ > Facebook/Google/LinkedIn/mas.to > : > CharlesHSauer > >