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List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: =?utf-8?b?UGV0ZXIgV2VpbmJlcmdlciAo5rip5Y2a5qC8KSB2aWEgVFVIUw==?= Reply-To: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0ZXIgV2VpbmJlcmdlciAo5rip5Y2a5qC8KQ==?= --000000000000a377bc060c46ebe5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The protons must have decayed by now. On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80=AFPM ron minnich wr= ote: > is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder. > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS = wrote: > >> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on >> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is s= aid >> and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet >> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, >> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern >> equivalent fails to come to mind. >> >> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of >> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering t= he >> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH a= nd >> other Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently abou= t >> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollecti= ons >> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to somethi= ng >> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company. >> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, = and >> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of >> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such >> important times passing too into the sands of time. >> >> - Matt G. >> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich < >> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room: >> >> "I'm about to turn this terminal off, >> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the >> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since >> before left." >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Prin= ceton < >> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion. >>> >>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance >>> between them. >>> >>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide th= e >>> corporate directory. >>> >>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to >>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Va= lley >>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name >>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet. >>> >>> =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739> >>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote: >>> >>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure= . >>> Maybe they'll use it for other groups. >>> >>> >>> john >>> >>> >>> >> --000000000000a377bc060c46ebe5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The= protons must have decayed by now.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25=E2=80= =AFPM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.= com> wrote:
is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
On = Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
While my gut says not = likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on ensuring someone doe= s a historical sweep of the premises before all is said and done.=C2=A0 You= never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet somewhere...a lot o= f history has gone down in those illustrious halls, formative moments in ou= r quest for better technology for which a modern equivalent fails to come t= o mind.

For me it's not just about innovations= though, but a culture of curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine = interest in bettering the human condition that seeps from so much of the wo= rk accomplished by MH and other Bell Labs sites over the decades.=C2=A0 A v= ideo I watched recently about the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I = see in countless recollections of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work= was contributing to something greater for everyone, not just the bottom li= ne of the telephone company.=C2=A0 Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taug= ht many an engineer, scientist, and businessperson over the years outlive t= hese facilities by orders of magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the = physical artifacts of such important times passing too into the sands of ti= me.

- Matt G.
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= wrote:

April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last o= ne in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had si= nce
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2= =80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <mart= ymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
Thus following the Holmdel facility= into the Halls of Oblivion.

my current locati= on, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.
<= div>
I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '= 90s, there to divide the corporate directory.

Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucen= t had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silic= on Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the = Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dict= ionary as yet.

=3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
<= a href=3D"https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships" rel=3D"no= referrer nofollow noopener" target=3D"_blank">VP of Membership, MIT Club of= Princeton
=






On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, = John Floren via TUHS wrote:
I can= 9;t believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure= . Maybe they'll use it for other groups.

<= br>
john



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