From: Marc Rochkind <mrochkind@gmail.com>
To: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Perkin-Elmer Sort/Merge II vs Unix sort(1)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOkr1zXMAoBJL0qXAD42Qz5WECkbgW7UWUpF=wy9cGCWt38qEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67F7FAEB-551F-47AA-9E09-2D8948E4CCCF@iitbombay.org>
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Why did you say "thoughtless agglomeration of features?"
Do you know anything about the design of the P-E S/M, or is just a biased
guess? Have you ever tried a large external sort with UNIX commands?
Marc
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025, 12:10 PM Bakul Shah via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2025, at 9:23 AM, Diomidis Spinellis <dds@aueb.gr> wrote:
> >
> > I also think that the design of Perkin-Elmer's Sort/Merge II shows the
> influence of salespeople forcing developers to tack-on whatever features
> were required by important customers. Maybe the clean design of Unix owes
> a lot to AT&T's operation under the 1956 consent decree that prevented it
> from entering the computer market. This may have shielded the system's
> design from unhealthy market pressures during its critical gestation years.
>
> IIRC sort/merge was/is a pretty major thing on IBM mainframes, with
> products from multiple companies. May be Perkin-Elmer were trying
> to compete with mainframe sort/merge products? Also, I suspect that
> for sorting terabytes of data Unix sort likely won't work as fast as
> mainframe sorts....
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-17 17:23 [TUHS] " Diomidis Spinellis
2025-01-17 19:10 ` [TUHS] " Bakul Shah via TUHS
2025-01-17 19:35 ` Marc Rochkind [this message]
2025-01-18 14:51 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2025-01-18 15:16 ` Larry McVoy
2025-01-18 15:40 ` Paul Winalski
2025-01-18 16:54 ` Marc Rochkind
2025-01-19 3:45 ` sjenkin
2025-01-18 16:00 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2025-01-18 16:25 ` Tom Lyon
2025-01-18 17:07 ` ron minnich
2025-01-18 19:39 ` Marc Rochkind
2025-01-17 20:07 ` John Levine
2025-01-18 4:46 ` Dave Horsfall
2025-01-17 18:12 Douglas McIlroy
2025-01-18 4:29 ` G. Branden Robinson
2025-01-21 21:53 Douglas McIlroy
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