From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17279 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2021 17:57:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Dec 2021 17:57:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B58B49CBE5; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 03:57:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DCB9CBE3; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 03:57:06 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Mh2pSdcu"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3C2749CBE3; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 03:57:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f43.google.com (mail-qv1-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABDC69CBE2 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 03:57:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f43.google.com with SMTP id kk22so68373qvb.0 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:57:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=PFIuUtpAvwU1RwMZ88RaJ7OvY3Tt0pm5+UOJoJQzRpY=; b=Mh2pSdcuBeqD90OwXoZB2oRn6E+21vGgzQtGfI5lsGM9JgkU/Y5qhUvp/UOi759OmO frhz1GqVWJ80KT7D3z3TlhRJIW6Ps08v0hLSvmWKFoVvyHmcGCeJzxRii0BrAtZSC8/r gOcS9XA48EIWmfzYCve2U7jMD0L5BYVQ24c2nMs4ZxTOHTxRHZ31S7PNebj9NZZ66m7Y EMlwBSeCanMa1ZsPkRsLxWOTJj1ji2x5cx+UuTIjIeHRFA6WLx5C+SkzaHhgixH3mqbD pfLjpPHkxwCQZmEaIbi3WeUEPSy4Auqc3cZRyCglNIrbjnUu/g1jd9k+eVqFzxsZN+Jc 7PmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=PFIuUtpAvwU1RwMZ88RaJ7OvY3Tt0pm5+UOJoJQzRpY=; b=Qba/LqwQP0VCg9T9hSyhNtibxnXO2GpXgyzJjgS0OlrjYOY0u8PicPJ27rRYL30A7c QYgIg2sLvqD8ef80qRyKw66TzO3ez4kZUPCqlLY1og1i8r2Hlad7tWzj7X5ZFDk34/fg LyUXJFC7fBs0CS0BjGqdW9jvBjYB/GxmUPvzHNN/sx9P1v9wgrI1dyKEmLYAmIoznI+h lyPY1iku4lW6wGDcbi1yBLL6aQDK46Hhjy+mEe1K7FX5m6pMhtjQZTZMQgSKN0DdX6gY vx2SYNBBDncQI1LqGh1MwBYc0twxuGVOcF3Yc6K9NdEiknF9BZMrE4xOed1spesH9qLW XlEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5337Iy8eh9rtWCOVCNZC5tShujoRLRTF/yRx36E+OtNs/eW1Y6ZF oTeCewF9lW0PbgolUolqhLbb9sVQcbKzOP8o4uCusrZz X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJHO99D8zrckFnF47o6LNRVPWW82JQk7ZWtIVJpmywtwk1G5tlC9hLeAcEQAyunNFrVB2/LLg2EU9wuL8dbV0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:c83:: with SMTP id r3mr17054876qvr.96.1639677420565; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:57:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202112150844.1BF8iibJ012519@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202112150844.1BF8iibJ012519@freefriends.org> From: Tom Manos Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 12:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000032f93005d347267d" Subject: Re: [TUHS] efl(1) anyone? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000032f93005d347267d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm late to the party here. Although I'm a gray hair, I didn't start using UNIX until the early '80s, and though I've seen, and been curious about efl, I've never used it. Fortran 4 was my first high-level language in college in the '70s. That said, I do remember efl being on an early PC based UNIX - Microport SVR2. On later Microport UNIXen it was gone, but I can't remember whether it disappeared on SVR3 or 4. I currently play with 4.3BSD Quasijarus system on simh, which has efl. What a fun system to play with! Maybe I'll give efl a try if I can find enough docs to grok it. Tom ---- Tom Manos KO4ENQ On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:49 AM wrote: > Hi TUHS folks! > > After having reincarnated ratfor, I am wondering about Stuart Feldman's > efl (extended fortran language). It was a real compiler that let you > define structs, and generated more or less readable Fortran code. > > I have the impression that it was pretty cool, but that it just didn't > catch on. So: > > - Did anyone here ever use it personally? > > - Is my impression that it didn't catch on correct? Or am I ignorant? > > Thoughts etc. welcome. :-) > > Thanks, > > Arnold > --00000000000032f93005d347267d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I&#= 39;m late to the party here. Although I'm a gray hair, I didn't sta= rt using UNIX until the early '80s, and though I've seen, and been = curious about efl, I've never used it. Fortran 4 was my first high-leve= l language in college in=C2=A0the '70s.

That said, I do remember efl being on an early PC base= d UNIX - Microport SVR2. On later Microport UNIXen it was gone, but I can&#= 39;t remember whether it disappeared on SVR3 or 4.

I currently play with 4.3BSD Quasijarus system on= simh,=C2=A0which has efl. What a fun system to play with! Maybe I'll g= ive efl a try if I can find enough docs to grok it.

Tom
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Tom Manos
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On Wed, Dec= 15, 2021 at 3:49 AM <arnold@skeeve= .com> wrote:
Hi TUHS folks!

After having reincarnated ratfor, I am wondering about Stuart Feldman's=
efl (extended fortran language). It was a real compiler that let you
define structs, and generated more or less readable Fortran code.

I have the impression that it was pretty cool, but that it just didn't<= br> catch on.=C2=A0 So:

- Did anyone here ever use it personally?

- Is my impression that it didn't catch on correct? Or am I ignorant?
Thoughts etc. welcome. :-)

Thanks,

Arnold
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