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From: Tom Manos <>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] efl(1) anyone?
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:41:00 -0500	[thread overview]
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I agree with everything you said.

I think the operative word here is "playing". I'm not aware of anyone who
would use either 4.3BSD or efl for real work. It's just fun to mess around
with some things from the somewhat distant past that we missed along the

For me, right now, that's BSD, which I used at Naval Postgraduate School in
the mid-80s, but never after. After I left grad school, all I was exposed
to was SVR2-4 and then OSF/1 and then Solaris from the mid 90's on. BSD is

Tom Manos
Vivat Jesus

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:56 PM Tom Manos <> wrote:

> I'm late to the party here. Although I'm a gray hair, I didn't start using
> UNIX until the early '80s, and though I've seen, and been curious about
> efl, I've never used it. Fortran 4 was my first high-level language in
> college in the '70s.
> That said, I do remember efl being on an early PC based UNIX - Microport
> SVR2. On later Microport UNIXen it was gone, but I can't remember whether
> it disappeared on SVR3 or 4.
> I currently play with 4.3BSD Quasijarus system on simh, which has efl.
> What a fun system to play with! Maybe I'll give efl a try if I can find
> enough docs to grok it.
> Tom
> ----
> Tom Manos
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:49 AM <> wrote:
>> Hi TUHS folks!
>> After having reincarnated ratfor, I am wondering about Stuart Feldman's
>> efl (extended fortran language). It was a real compiler that let you
>> define structs, and generated more or less readable Fortran code.
>> I have the impression that it was pretty cool, but that it just didn't
>> catch on.  So:
>> - Did anyone here ever use it personally?
>> - Is my impression that it didn't catch on correct? Or am I ignorant?
>> Thoughts etc. welcome. :-)
>> Thanks,
>> Arnold

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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15  8:44 arnold
2021-12-15 16:25 ` John Cowan
2021-12-16 17:56 ` Tom Manos
2021-12-16 22:38   ` Clem Cole
2021-12-16 23:41   ` Tom Manos [this message]

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