From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFE829BE4 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2024 23:47:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E1943242; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:47:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com (mail-ed1-x536.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::536]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6AA543241 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:47:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-57a677d3d79so473202a12.1 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1717537623; x=1718142423; darn=tuhs.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IJ9hhC99rgVcYbmuseFkwLwGKeoN+WKIri8sPCXM8Q8=; b=Qgtmq1dbS0N8tc5eWG6aA7+S8qdlyeD46D0RNo5/XFtO925PO2z9/726DK6Nbj3K9L MMLI1SMnkntoV8g8l1Jngxq9svgfKzkVGyEH59a3hmu3CMyvuAqS/oWN3nEkMIsvP3YT rtPFcFYWJonY5dZIkCWGOIxNTDeOPxL2xMIiZ6oLECUB/+doB+wNnXQhMk6d8A28SovK MrA2BmObR1LAtLaYKhRXUL2A0ViPEDvJPYpC3j3FlQlFw5KcX6GsaiE26OU/V7Dg9Kc9 XT2s5HUlNapBLg47QxP2bJqEawjfNvxvro6OchNtKJgxOpE4VW+Fs1WnDIlSDzhfMqFt y2Dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1717537623; x=1718142423; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IJ9hhC99rgVcYbmuseFkwLwGKeoN+WKIri8sPCXM8Q8=; b=Z6hPAiC8e/KJPVA6fzL070ikeqd9eucGKfRyUuPbb10QRoGYGxQUglCRJfXseRz846 0wJ61j+V//8Lqi/t/iBxMfgAD4CB804naCwi5pAOzJJH7JzaWTqHzYShfRTAWken0W0x SS+lZ0h9O7M1ROHkOKW24yal0hutM/qPlti+JCSEiIKh9qZfz+3BBM4DRCUSKagy4/Or SHA4rOWHz5E2lEBS1E8Kq2yADHKVVZo9Jb+4v0jyHhjQAnHBnKQPrXc2lJWTEAOzxZph /nyOFRB/o4GuGzEWbA7UNjRYLsF5djLTDfnh13IyDq5GufpEghUwWiQkpPHOdcLpDJRW kPlg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXc/0DBf8sWmhDVJNwr3mqH0XVomyoiGnbHwsdns+aghoMFtnVTBcJGD7c1tnxgTPjSXB/7+tFgK4+C8nHn X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyq5jluXOiYOFjuFyFSaaUIluTYFc4xXr9La7o0AjUQ40VrYFvi LbQhtwNHxx2FLKlCWUIJvTazSDwTonstnAIV9udUFSwGRIV8B+b6/qISDtphV+bXzzezQ12oe9H XON55XRd5IiFzphRTkADMG8+4iztT8azH X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF3lwMU17unFK7gD4xKHqe9KHYdIbGFJ7Rr9V/tkoONzDq4IDaUQYRZzw0AgKQ413yf3rl+bdWCM4S4FuKVb20= X-Received: by 2002:a50:d504:0:b0:574:ea0b:c1a3 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-57a7a687649mr2755208a12.1.1717537622906; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 14:47:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 14:46:51 -0700 Message-ID: To: Marc Donner , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e6dfb2061a17635c" Message-ID-Hash: ZBKMI3ZHNYM5HUVPJUUQHBYAP7ANFNPQ X-Message-ID-Hash: ZBKMI3ZHNYM5HUVPJUUQHBYAP7ANFNPQ X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Proliferation of book print styles List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e6dfb2061a17635c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:22=E2=80=AFAM Marc Donner = wrote: > The standards work that created SGML went a bit overboard, to my taste. > The only really serious adopters of SGML that I can think of were the US > military, but there may have been others. > > Bookmaster (an IBM product, and I think what they used for their published docs in the 90s into the 2000s?) was SGML based, if I remember correctly. Writing in it was kind of lovely, and the traintrack diagrams for command syntax were exceptionally well-done. It made nice-looking docs (e.g. https://distribution.sinenomine.net/opensolaris/install2.pdf). Adam --000000000000e6dfb2061a17635c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:22=E2=80=AFAM Marc Donner <marc.donner@gmail.com> wrote:
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The standards work tha= t created SGML went a bit overboard, to my taste.=C2=A0 The only really ser= ious adopters of SGML that I can think of were the US military, but there m= ay have been others.


Bookma= ster (an IBM product, and I think what they used for their published docs i= n the 90s into the 2000s?) was SGML based, if I remember correctly.=C2=A0 W= riting in it was kind of lovely, and the traintrack diagrams for command sy= ntax were exceptionally well-done.

It made nice-looking d= ocs (e.g. https://distribution.sinenomine.net/opensolaris/install2.pdf).<= /div>

Adam
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