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From: Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com>
To: segaloco <segaloco@protonmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: python
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:58:01 -0700	[thread overview]
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What we've done on my current project is pretty much equivalent to the
route Go chose.

Go has go fmt; doesn't matter what you personally believe, just run that
pre-commit, and you get a consistent style.  For Python we use black.  Same
idea.  It's not what everyone would have chosen--in fact, precisely what it
does is not what *anyone* on the project, probably, would have chosen--but
the fact is, it does something sane and pretty readable, and then there's
no fighting over style.

Adam

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:28 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

> > That said, as a person who thinks of himself as a professional, when I go
> > in to someone else's code, I adopt their style. It's really rude to not
> > do so. I've written code in GNU C style.
> >
> > Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
>
> I've adopted a variation on this in that I try and write additions to
> existing code stylistically similar to what is there, anything presenting
> glue logic to some sort of external vendor library in a way resembling
> their style, and then anything else is mine.
>
> That middle one I've found particularly helpful even for myself over the
> years as there are plenty of places in the dayjob codebases I can drop in
> and tell almost immediately "Oh this is a wrapper over so and so based on
> the variable names" or "Yeah this is an interface to library <xyz> based on
> the way the operations are named."
>
> Generally the only thing I have a hard time sticking to is casing, I'm a
> fervent snake caser in my assembly and C code, but then fervent pascal
> caser in my JavaScript and C#.  Then again, that may also tie into my
> middle practice in that those are the common cases seen in model examples
> of those languages.  One of the weirder side effects of that stylistic
> practice is the rare occasion where I blindly copy something between
> languages with relatively similar syntax (C to C# or JavaScript for
> instance) I can tell going back later because there's a hunk of code with
> snake case smack in the middle of a bunch of pascal case.  I usually go and
> clean that up though because otherwise the codebase starts to look like a
> copypaste job from StackOverflow after a while, that stuff drives me up the
> wall.
>
> - Matt G.
>
> P.S. For TUHS subject appropriateness, I have TUHS to thank for my C style
> practices.  I learned from KnR 2nd Edition back when I was a kid, but
> diverged a bit from the typical KnR way of things for a while, when I
> caught wind of TUHS and started pouring over all the code, unbeknownst to
> my own consciousness I started absorbing stylistic patterns from UNIX
> sources.  I'm thankful to Warren and all the others who have facilitated
> this community, I think TUHS should be in any programmer's bookmark list :)
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-04  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-30 18:22 [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Norman Wilson
2023-07-30 21:43 ` Rob Pike
2023-07-30 23:34   ` George Michaelson
2023-07-30 23:59     ` Erik E. Fair
2023-07-31  0:26       ` Warner Losh
2023-07-31 22:57         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-31 23:05           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-01  2:45             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  1:51         ` Niklas Karlsson
2023-08-01  2:47           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01  3:20           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-31  0:41       ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-01  9:22       ` Marc Donner
2023-08-01 10:58         ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-02  0:37           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-02 14:52             ` Ron Natalie
2023-08-02 21:14               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:20                 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:37                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-02 23:49                   ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03  0:51                     ` [TUHS] Re: python Larry McVoy
2023-08-03  1:20                       ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  2:53                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  2:55                         ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-03  3:24                         ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03  3:32                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03  3:55                           ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03  8:32                             ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 14:19                               ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 14:56                                 ` Dan Halbert
2023-08-03 15:20                                   ` will.senn
2023-08-03 22:05                                     ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04  0:24                                       ` John Cowan
2023-08-04 15:17                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-05  4:44                                       ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 15:41                                 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03  2:07                       ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03  2:21                         ` Pete Wright via TUHS
2023-08-03  2:56                           ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 12:36                         ` Mike Markowski
2023-08-03 13:29                           ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 15:24                             ` emanuel stiebler
2023-08-03 15:39                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-04  1:01                             ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04  1:28                               ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-04  1:58                                 ` Adam Thornton [this message]
2023-08-04 15:04                                   ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 15:10                                     ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 16:57                         ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] " Phil Budne
2023-08-03 17:00                           ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03 20:35                             ` [TUHS] Split addressing (I/D) space (inspired by the death of the python... thread) Will Senn
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` [TUHS] " Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:10                                 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:16                                   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 21:24                                     ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 22:34                                   ` Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:05                               ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:44                               ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 22:08                                 ` Will Senn
2023-08-03 22:54                                   ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 23:08                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-03 23:15                                     ` Clem Cole
2023-08-04  0:38                                     ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 17:29                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 17:51                             ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 18:05                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 21:29                                 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 23:55                                   ` [TUHS] printf (was: python) Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 16:06                                     ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-08-04 16:57                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 21:16                                         ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 21:02                           ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-03 23:47                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 23:54                             ` Will Senn
2023-08-04 19:20                         ` [TUHS] " Ed Bradford
2023-08-04 19:47                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-05  5:40                             ` Ed Bradford
2023-08-02 23:33               ` [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Dave Horsfall
2023-08-04 20:11 [TUHS] Re: python Noel Chiappa
2023-08-04 20:15 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04 20:45   ` Adam Thornton
2023-08-04 21:17 Douglas McIlroy
2023-08-04 21:30 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 22:36 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-06 19:46 Norman Wilson
2023-08-07  6:48 ` Ed Bradford

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