From: Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com>
To: segaloco <segaloco@protonmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: python
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:58:01 -0700 [thread overview]
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What we've done on my current project is pretty much equivalent to the
route Go chose.
Go has go fmt; doesn't matter what you personally believe, just run that
pre-commit, and you get a consistent style. For Python we use black. Same
idea. It's not what everyone would have chosen--in fact, precisely what it
does is not what *anyone* on the project, probably, would have chosen--but
the fact is, it does something sane and pretty readable, and then there's
no fighting over style.
Adam
On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:28 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
> > That said, as a person who thinks of himself as a professional, when I go
> > in to someone else's code, I adopt their style. It's really rude to not
> > do so. I've written code in GNU C style.
> >
> > Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
>
> I've adopted a variation on this in that I try and write additions to
> existing code stylistically similar to what is there, anything presenting
> glue logic to some sort of external vendor library in a way resembling
> their style, and then anything else is mine.
>
> That middle one I've found particularly helpful even for myself over the
> years as there are plenty of places in the dayjob codebases I can drop in
> and tell almost immediately "Oh this is a wrapper over so and so based on
> the variable names" or "Yeah this is an interface to library <xyz> based on
> the way the operations are named."
>
> Generally the only thing I have a hard time sticking to is casing, I'm a
> fervent snake caser in my assembly and C code, but then fervent pascal
> caser in my JavaScript and C#. Then again, that may also tie into my
> middle practice in that those are the common cases seen in model examples
> of those languages. One of the weirder side effects of that stylistic
> practice is the rare occasion where I blindly copy something between
> languages with relatively similar syntax (C to C# or JavaScript for
> instance) I can tell going back later because there's a hunk of code with
> snake case smack in the middle of a bunch of pascal case. I usually go and
> clean that up though because otherwise the codebase starts to look like a
> copypaste job from StackOverflow after a while, that stuff drives me up the
> wall.
>
> - Matt G.
>
> P.S. For TUHS subject appropriateness, I have TUHS to thank for my C style
> practices. I learned from KnR 2nd Edition back when I was a kid, but
> diverged a bit from the typical KnR way of things for a while, when I
> caught wind of TUHS and started pouring over all the code, unbeknownst to
> my own consciousness I started absorbing stylistic patterns from UNIX
> sources. I'm thankful to Warren and all the others who have facilitated
> this community, I think TUHS should be in any programmer's bookmark list :)
>
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2023-07-30 23:34 ` George Michaelson
2023-07-30 23:59 ` Erik E. Fair
2023-07-31 0:26 ` Warner Losh
2023-07-31 22:57 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-07-31 23:05 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-01 2:45 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01 1:51 ` Niklas Karlsson
2023-08-01 2:47 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-01 3:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-31 0:41 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-01 9:22 ` Marc Donner
2023-08-01 10:58 ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-02 0:37 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-02 14:52 ` Ron Natalie
2023-08-02 21:14 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:20 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-02 22:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-02 23:49 ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03 0:51 ` [TUHS] Re: python Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 1:20 ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03 2:53 ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 2:55 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-03 3:24 ` George Michaelson
2023-08-03 3:32 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 3:55 ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 8:32 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 14:19 ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 14:56 ` Dan Halbert
2023-08-03 15:20 ` will.senn
2023-08-03 22:05 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 0:24 ` John Cowan
2023-08-04 15:17 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-05 4:44 ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-03 15:41 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 2:07 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 2:21 ` Pete Wright via TUHS
2023-08-03 2:56 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 12:36 ` Mike Markowski
2023-08-03 13:29 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-03 15:24 ` emanuel stiebler
2023-08-03 15:39 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-04 1:01 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04 1:28 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-08-04 1:58 ` Adam Thornton [this message]
2023-08-04 15:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 15:10 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 16:57 ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] " Phil Budne
2023-08-03 17:00 ` Rich Salz
2023-08-03 20:35 ` [TUHS] Split addressing (I/D) space (inspired by the death of the python... thread) Will Senn
2023-08-03 21:05 ` [TUHS] " Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:10 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:16 ` Warner Losh
2023-08-03 21:24 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 22:34 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2023-08-03 21:05 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-03 21:44 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 22:08 ` Will Senn
2023-08-03 22:54 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-03 23:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-08-03 23:15 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-04 0:38 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 17:29 ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 17:51 ` John Cowan
2023-08-03 18:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-03 21:29 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 23:55 ` [TUHS] printf (was: python) Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 16:06 ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-08-04 16:57 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-08-04 21:16 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-03 21:02 ` [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-08-03 23:47 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-03 23:54 ` Will Senn
2023-08-04 19:20 ` [TUHS] " Ed Bradford
2023-08-04 19:47 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-05 5:40 ` Ed Bradford
2023-08-02 23:33 ` [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman Dave Horsfall
2023-08-04 20:11 [TUHS] Re: python Noel Chiappa
2023-08-04 20:15 ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04 20:45 ` Adam Thornton
2023-08-04 21:17 Douglas McIlroy
2023-08-04 21:30 ` Dan Cross
2023-08-04 22:36 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-06 19:46 Norman Wilson
2023-08-07 6:48 ` Ed Bradford
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