From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d3c466db for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D48FA9B8F8; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:48:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1BE94797; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:55 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="PJjJUf5R"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4564E94797; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f195.google.com (mail-oi1-f195.google.com [209.85.167.195]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCD1D946BD for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f195.google.com with SMTP id o205so4495775oib.12 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:47:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=gDdn7SkmUvENqA9mxJaZq028QhDKwwqKzLUNWxAG7Z8=; b=PJjJUf5RvpAoS9DoOGhtlsoLYBahLet1CjDBcz9e7GqNOp3hT/ZhkJTNZPAt8o2N0o KThYukzh3ydk8pQEekwxl3/mIQUmSypIq4IlDF0/YO4YJwkfl2/POeRudOXvXQhQMmQ7 YLjbhtcNz03lQsx8btCW9+y3sxqFFEWvdcnd7gm5zy6mXgVePammHuTabynnbfcJPVpM oN1SGYq5Df+odSrUGJLVqg2LCCoAZHA+xe1rd5nFCp3z1au+3HuqyKdZGgG9tV90IG3l 8An8tMy8LieErlDLFERl/EonIt7ZLWk80HYQrd48chN3e7QvM0qhPH2Wz715d0zekYP4 xpSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=gDdn7SkmUvENqA9mxJaZq028QhDKwwqKzLUNWxAG7Z8=; b=GU/drDDFkSJX6/MFPQVKIMlbl7EFG6FVrDw3Tmwv3YwYD7VL0nSykMoKmCGqUtucA9 z1Kt1tsJIPqTaVqLT2SmdKvbbFKOEEg65B2I2PauZpvsK03kS3q6F4i+6HGVuXUgVqoW qoyPEZKwqpVgCxikXieXa0exsYPGR8BCAmoTRUc9arQC+bu3jri9HI7YFnocXdu1Y7HO o2FRAXoOCNbypjK2D7bQpInUczYo+tGOxV+rPRHvkv+RGlTZqcRGAb1WKFFT5ZctuXjQ jCcQ+M8ZDuvC+MqghMSDHQ1m7MiIcNRhjrelQnkvVzPs8x8tUWyabsRAXwUK6AmhBEyA FqOA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV2/HIx+f7IRJYuelFt3ems/1vhIyy0qHvdc16wnOW9tCa0NjHR lmOje1UG+wYNpo+yDt1z0M69sAmVg/xzZuivQZSECk/f X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzSOMkhalXn+cb9su9fT6y4Omk9jBXjVpCJ4FeoWmzDeO1ncPozifKBqgMQ1DDundgI46zEYzi4waCLyZHtVOQ= X-Received: by 2002:aca:3908:: with SMTP id g8mr640702oia.54.1568767671789; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:47:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190917095435.GA16333@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:47:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cfefad0592c92fb3" Subject: Re: [TUHS] A Couple of New Unix Artifacts X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000cfefad0592c92fb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" We at Sine Nomine Associates read the entrails wrong. We did a port of OpenSolaris to the zSeries architecture (although we required z/VM; much like Linux, there's no point running it otherwise). By "we" I mean mostly Neale Ferguson for the heavy lifting and me for most of the userland apps and toolchain stuff (although I did write most of the disk device driver, which went through z/VM DIAGs rather than talking directly to the hardware, but from the OpenSolaris perspective it was just a device driver). Both we and IBM thought IBM was going to buy Sun. I'm sure that's why IBM agreed to give us a couple extra DIAGs in z/VM to make the thing run a good deal more efficiently. And then IBM pushed too hard on price, apparently not knowing Sun was also sitting on an offer from Larry Ellison. My career would have been very different if that acquisition had happened. Adam On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:25 PM Arthur Krewat wrote: > My wish list is: > > - Oracle (or some other licensee) coughed up SunOS. Legally. > - AT&T or some other derivative coughed up SVR4(.2) > > Ok, that's all I got ;) > > But yes, I'm insane enough to want: Oracle coughing up Solaris 11.x(4?) > - legally. And I don't mean OpenSolaris. > > BTW - I know a certain institution I know, I'm pretty sure used V6 for a > graphics workstation. I'm pretty sure they had a source license, but I > could be wrong. What's the reality when it came to V6 being used > commercially in a product? This would be around the early 80's > timeframe. And certain law enforcement agencies actually used at least > one workstation for whatever reason. It would have run on MIcro-11's, > and MIcro-Vaxen. > > > On 9/17/2019 7:12 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Warren Toomey wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Now you have a new topic to talk about :-) > > > > The infamous plaster cast of certain genitals (if it actually existed; > > the cast I mean)? > > > > -- Dave > > > > --000000000000cfefad0592c92fb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We at Sine Nomine Associates read the entrails wrong.=

We did a port of OpenSolaris to the zSeries archi= tecture (although we required z/VM; much like Linux, there's no point r= unning it otherwise).=C2=A0 By "we" I mean mostly Neale Ferguson = for the heavy lifting and me for most of the userland apps and toolchain st= uff (although I did write most of the disk device driver, which went throug= h z/VM DIAGs rather than talking directly to the hardware, but from the Ope= nSolaris perspective it was just a device driver).

Both we and IBM thought IBM was going to buy Sun.=C2=A0 I'm sure that&= #39;s why IBM agreed to give us a couple extra DIAGs in z/VM to make the th= ing run a good deal more efficiently.

And then IBM= pushed too hard on price, apparently not knowing Sun was also sitting on a= n offer from Larry Ellison.

My career would have b= een very different if that acquisition had happened.

Adam

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:25 PM Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My wish list is:

- Oracle (or some other licensee) coughed up SunOS. Legally.
- AT&T or some other derivative coughed up SVR4(.2)

Ok, that's all I got ;)

But yes, I'm insane enough to want: Oracle coughing up Solaris 11.x(4?)=
- legally. And I don't mean OpenSolaris.

BTW - I know a certain institution I know, I'm pretty sure used V6 for = a
graphics workstation. I'm pretty sure they had a source license, but I =
could be wrong. What's the reality when it came to V6 being used
commercially in a product? This would be around the early 80's
timeframe. And certain law enforcement agencies actually used at least
one workstation for whatever reason.=C2=A0 It would have run on MIcro-11= 9;s,
and MIcro-Vaxen.


On 9/17/2019 7:12 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Warren Toomey wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Now you have a new topic to talk about :-)
>
> The infamous plaster cast of certain genitals (if it actually existed;=
> the cast I mean)?
>
> -- Dave
>

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