From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 75ff70a7 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8E0DA9B9CA; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:04:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A3C94797; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:03:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="YcbakQBx"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 918E094797; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:03:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com (mail-ot1-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C943946BD for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:03:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id b2so4794467otq.10 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wRooRsLq32Jywqkup43LFDc1dFXr1RZZVmtXFv4l2QI=; b=YcbakQBx1X35epozylxpsYT/8ngHphlHNRTODhlKGMtxIbVOtL3TastAUj6dmY/AVF lphxYAL7FTVOf9Bmr5vj5oaDIhoktlJvWLFnPr/cTy49US3YPH8VFh/2fmzU2RLR1n7v nGyU9jr4rLJ+x4o/mralxbQQ80ydFcTagJUqe/vEnA9a62h4/47dfSZAbx66QJmJk5IO uCJyfLteeG0F5X1db+wTuHwI6oxwbSWhAi3xlGMd2SkTGNvgsSDk05Pp+SApw5mNqbMm H5FJdx8FjjjfVV2tkJYN6U57nuiqdzoGJnM9S1KaNakRcVzADWZ0VIV/2bGIGPK0gSEw bHNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wRooRsLq32Jywqkup43LFDc1dFXr1RZZVmtXFv4l2QI=; b=ExZlnXRLLFZXXhw+sGBdU/O0jm+CWTKoV27mTUJz0nUT6PuTf99L+7Um8hezFaAAdO ftJHhsJidfONGjYvTATsGWRDOjenDB99T35lLozqLCGJeCCjSXvpcAioE/0HeSTxPUT/ 8yGVXGWspMwbWvHT/39rHPiUkdnNGIcRD89ZML5NiIDjjR0HCpk3r4Pbv9A5Hiwzogof lT9RzyLA9t04vTPTUZ14/znvt1Put4cSSYcBqoluaoHOb3WuWZG6iI6b7ptImK1kx7al YeMrWFD68TBlxWz0lL/jGS1aCAoRPMlYHtQbnHntFkZZoMpixsjz+mH4BbSrsXD7LxQx DnCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUXBBAYG73JL79ga9kgFw+kgXluUjfDgyv97Wv7v4nEh1vGAUGp Fg0C1ugavd8DYwIUWWpx6Ci7C2+NBHbH22kT28wHumao X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxUARtEAc+LS8jGVfDtUN+g6NT2wYWIb4QIbPcF1JtTYtvlXKueDzqbNplQ1iMRi3vEwWBEtaWRAOfhpmo9gYw= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7a55:: with SMTP id z21mr796079otm.26.1568768637173; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190917095435.GA16333@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:03:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005a853a0592c96977" Subject: Re: [TUHS] A Couple of New Unix Artifacts X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000005a853a0592c96977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Well, take it with a grain of salt. I have no actual knowledge of what IBM was attempting or what really happened. But from where I sat the evidence was pretty compelling: they wanted an OpenSolaris port enough to give us some hypervisor changes we asked for (which certainly must have had substantial engineering costs for them), and it was pretty clear to me at the time that Sun was looking for a buyer and that IBM would be a natural entity to buy them. On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:54 PM Arthur Krewat wrote: > On 9/17/2019 8:47 PM, Adam Thornton wrote: > > > > And then IBM pushed too hard on price, apparently not knowing Sun was > > also sitting on an offer from Larry Ellison. > > > > My career would have been very different if that acquisition had > happened. > > Another factoid added to the gestalt in my head. > > > art k. > > > --0000000000005a853a0592c96977 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, take it with a grain of salt.=C2=A0 I have no actual= knowledge of what IBM was attempting or what really happened.=C2=A0 But fr= om where I sat the evidence was pretty compelling: they wanted an OpenSolar= is port enough to give us some hypervisor changes we asked for (which certa= inly must have had substantial engineering costs for them), and it was pret= ty clear to me at the time that Sun was looking for a buyer and that IBM wo= uld be a natural entity to buy them.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:54 PM Art= hur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net= > wrote:
On 9= /17/2019 8:47 PM, Adam Thornton wrote:
>
> And then IBM pushed too hard on price, apparently not knowing Sun was =
> also sitting on an offer from Larry Ellison.
>
> My career would have been very different if that acquisition had happe= ned.

Another factoid added to the gestalt in my head.


art k.


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