From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15082 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2020 16:35:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jul 2020 16:35:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 44EC69C6B9; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 02:35:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F709C5E1; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 02:33:53 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="qgkJgmNV"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A5C169C5E1; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 02:33:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com (mail-pf1-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2700694585 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 02:33:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id t11so10322979pfq.11 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 09:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Mp4FXWQeivXET98MudajH76rojbSKmXVDDYQwkA9VeE=; b=qgkJgmNVDkoaLLU0fr8R2UOtOUsLXkJtARQeppqrSQRCOgbTDFTFWVzTnA8hEYb28h hY79VX4a5lqu8/zKPZOdJ+gFLW5xtS1zc3k2Pm0dAc/66s1+AiAoTcN1c1MxryI4j8Tn iijUAWnMXcg0ShwA9mhkPiXsvDE/H5PUy0dZLG+7a0Pdd0AWFKWH5irUouuhZHgMDdYt Lymsy230VTkMJc8RiiCm9mCOnJxQ2cElvNd3n+2O2QEj8VKD+LvaomJfCRk9K03P+uKJ DBvB7s1klF/1cj/fbf2i/O2KOzvZaeEua4PKwuO//tj3S9pWN6AOYltKg0V4KA0BfFM0 9g7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Mp4FXWQeivXET98MudajH76rojbSKmXVDDYQwkA9VeE=; b=Fmd9zq6AtlSHbgQyarNRngA/Vh4VOvC4JyizbzNDxq/oganIZ0H2qcc6Q1NM1is4FK sceJIdBdja+Ei2h44snBstb2nYbKYLenU7oMKBZ4uw0iKRTT0rQilc2o2mfAJGGGIGRE pBF8kpKX4qImvWtlPhWKFgTWxZW285zEFzeZGYa6l2HqV2R+JuBZOAUn/acod0dy/cdF s3b23ATxra++dMaKytgJo61WBYjgJPhcP8sdHLuaSYn36s6kOCZ/Tdr0s2TSyCQARuhk Qz9jC9QhnHtDAR47wMPHZ3pa8+ykOGm2pdpeEMRu1So88shgbwcjOGAFG0SGg9USCdjO ssZw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LQ/Ec6VhoSKR3iR74KYnppfxbFtlUr+au9qxAqSU+Sta+ax/D 4M2X21LtfQVH7FbuFCSGFSjk4k7WW2uG3+SS2UA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyemtxNoWivSoUTZSOZpo+gY3vs0bPJiPtKBPp7qZRjPLmbJeGhFNQWrbbEcmqgHc3kGBSvDVDrHpNTP5qAWbM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:3681:: with SMTP id d123mr34716280pga.317.1593880429450; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 09:33:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 09:33:38 -0700 Message-ID: To: John Cowan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cfd7f105a9a0341b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 uucp debugging help requested X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000cfd7f105a9a0341b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The "s" editor is written by Webb Miller and appears in his book "A Software Tools Sampler." There was a discussion about it...here, or COFF, or cctalk, or the PiDP-11 mailing list....a few months ago. Someone had already done the lifting to make it classic v7-compatible, but I don't remember who. Its interface is very close to vi, but it is quite compact and works well on v7. I have a fork of it that has the needed tweaks for PDP-11 v7 up at https://github.com/athornton/s . Since I find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor was a must for me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role rather nicely. Adam On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM John Cowan wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:54 PM Adam Thornton wrote: > > >> I've been trying to set up UUCP on my V7 system and its raspberry Pi >> host. This plus the "s" editor (already working) >> > > What is this "s" editor? The v7 man pages say nothing about it, and of > course Dr. Google is equally unhelpful. > > > John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org > We call nothing profound that is not wittily expressed. > --Northrop Frye (improved) > > --000000000000cfd7f105a9a0341b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The "s" editor is written by Webb Miller an= d appears in his book "A Software Tools Sampler."=C2=A0 There was= a discussion about it...here, or COFF, or cctalk, or the PiDP-11 mailing l= ist....a few months ago.=C2=A0 Someone had already done the lifting to make= it classic v7-compatible, but I don't remember who.

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Its interface is very close to vi, but it is quite compact and w= orks well on v7.

I have a fork of it that has = the needed tweaks for PDP-11 v7 up at https://github.com/athornton/s .

Since I= find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor was a must fo= r me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role rather nicely.=

Adam

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM = John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wro= te:
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