From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31787 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2022 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Dec 2022 15:36:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990AE4240C; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 01:36:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-f50.google.com (mail-ed1-f50.google.com [209.85.208.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8534242409 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2022 01:36:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-f50.google.com with SMTP id a1so2991932edf.5 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aboPngCEE8KTGMl1aUC73Ze6C+nx/JF6PhVycdaDW68=; b=QJCuA6E+81qM7d8OYiGxB1PyGQ2oEDuu1FHDwB9L5w7L62gahpeTzyPSJOf/sYws7h Z1+d7zudL2DxHZyusdCjFGGhDxc2AWMq5LXTdtWokqNSdILYPi+zuDlHGGwBzYbWCvy+ PphCK+Y0HWSYUfQXF8APJJmt3YUa0FtIiqc5KijHEYArXantK9/RqDCg8x3CCFtCtuyK i64kt43hlU+KAnBAdlNNNaA3MfDZt2TBF9QEH3Eut75bKVdC8z1VJkqs/9WtuMHrPcIM O0jjqHjG8GFo8QFzovtTXyDV2Pcd67WswvSfB2nLJWvUsidym4jh4SvDIdPp0BfxPYTo u+uQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aboPngCEE8KTGMl1aUC73Ze6C+nx/JF6PhVycdaDW68=; b=z+khzxt8g7C8Ekzarn1Jf/9TOnHIUGYRj5r9j4TPQJh4XAkf21MbeiLhoNumwdjvQy VxaJOZTK0XnUvKfJU+mnPVgg5zXfzVENxz3Yvv1EOm8TBDKzIvHiXr4iGS+yjQb7x+I1 ilsUxG90img1UA8dkOf+sC8vKOFOs9xuiF2W5mn6iR0qpbiBo1uyC78hSOIfLzNIXl9t //mIgbZU6KL/0EctNAnFN4DpPszkMhii+BS1QM4e+AXMZEqX0w6wX1saY7ar+9QLWdB7 Cem8KXlId7uF/AXWjNDUpaHdraSQreiwefzJcb4/okC906o+1xywXK8DEpolILzdeY1N MAeg== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmcnqJK+5BxV5x82khpd8ZhdGFP6pjTTGIL1taQh603UHdKWO4u 7dioGS8QZO2RSG/gnAf/WejpTmZimBgvVTgm+fkfLpiX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6itJ4LlbjP83EOlpDSvoXQT5Og2RzMFXQsOrwHpJauvlS5SORbIPUykJZLNuQKkJ5KR1b7W1lzQ6M3rsVntqM= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d943:0:b0:46f:a73d:6bd7 with SMTP id l3-20020aa7d943000000b0046fa73d6bd7mr4994419eds.93.1671550539806; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20221220013323.GL4401@mcvoy.com> <4942C729-FCE2-4075-9B1B-08CB7FC33813@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:35:28 -0700 Message-ID: To: Andy Kosela , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000263bf805f0443023" Message-ID-Hash: MBRIKQAQPXHENFOCPFBE22FXPW2I5EY3 X-Message-ID-Hash: MBRIKQAQPXHENFOCPFBE22FXPW2I5EY3 X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX on (not quite bare) System/370 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000263bf805f0443023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:29 AM Andy Kosela wrote: > On Tuesday, December 20, 2022, Adam Thornton wrote: > >> I mean, just a Unix, without all the cruft of a modern Linux, but which >> can actually take advantage of the resources of a modern machine. I don't >> care about a desktop, or even a graphical environment, I don't care about >> all the strange syscalls that are there to support particular databases, I >> don't care much about being a virtualization host. > > > But then...what would the purpose of such a system? ... > It appears to me there is really no need for such a modern mini-Unix > system outside of hard core O/S theorists community. > > I'm not asking for a _practical_ Christmas gift, and certainly not one that will help me at work. As you say: at work I've got Kubernetes. I think it would be aesthetically pleasing and fun to use. Need has nothing to do with it. Adam --000000000000263bf805f0443023 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:29 AM Andy = Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com= > wrote:
= On Tuesday, December 20, 2022, Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean, just a Unix, without al= l the cruft of a modern Linux, but which can actually take advantage of the= resources of a modern machine.=C2=A0 I don't care about a desktop, or = even a graphical environment, I don't care about all the strange syscal= ls that are there to support particular databases, I don't care much ab= out being a virtualization host.

But then..= .what would the purpose of such a system? ...
It appears to me th= ere is really no need for such a modern mini-Unix system outside of hard co= re O/S theorists community.


I'= ;m not asking for a _practical_ Christmas gift, and certainly not one that = will help me at work.=C2=A0 As you say: at work I've got Kubernetes.=C2= =A0 I think it would be aesthetically pleasing and fun to use.=C2=A0 Need h= as nothing to do with it.

Adam
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