From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27292 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2023 01:00:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2023 01:00:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE234249C; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:00:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ed1-f50.google.com (mail-ed1-f50.google.com [209.85.208.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51CA942491 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:00:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ed1-f50.google.com with SMTP id 18so16635558edw.7 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 17:00:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ccCnsdVLzON31epDgEryWOfcA+kI3rpMs11a4fiRwgo=; b=JWWZAj0wbNCtQKNU2YU+qZhVF0vFW3dMh81PDZbpdB30QaTpayKuQTMGtFhEwRBbwz IBGPh51KhXQRzf/C35hsqFRMBDqSIbQQRSX3Jo/+S1CPAsmytX25tlH0kJ+G6ho07SgD lGnBUzvvR3iYWtuYghJR61Y/+en/AZmOPZLeSrp32ZA5010kmw3GzNElCVKnkQaW1OBI dOJqv8PoorET23PQ9ZAzwTy05odqyCqVl9JlwMyvyOvIeNbhFxWF1q5Q6K+sd9lKECWU 8aYto4MIwpAW1G5wfVhBPAfzVD7vkKFjPlAhLTN7YYHoeM/WCPp/IxnAmmxDoIk8K4dp e05g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ccCnsdVLzON31epDgEryWOfcA+kI3rpMs11a4fiRwgo=; b=J6RVKdK+McpMWfjRSogYUdWODaXYEd+D+2FcKm5n9LdqqYfHmFUgL+FvMRWx2UEnsU yRAlbe+tgZDCTCFaxyGePYT008sqcW3FzB0QR7FZlqKpr/gJz9rG33mdp6+26ZQ9lYud jI1KzZcGykHNnZWHtJJgyN8ImKRo5LzoVO89C0RmodZCNgy/+PiNo/aAJehvUDpZdk4T GXFMmvPURiUUTXyXsUPlToK+wdT7XS8Sd8Cc7SP9HpfPIP/gm6q5OO4cTMTcvXim4zn4 nckMEMEvyaW2OjFd/7KklHiJdLCwrvGsloV7caHY96eO63B4QcuDmTtMsTbQeMZ7S9al gQEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqvyoheNhugbslmL7W8DFseB6ZRXcd7vXM77gJrpVCy2wqN7CrV oFgSe2RbuX5P2ksSe+XgpfXatCBSYQSIsS4TOge8F6uRmj0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXvwnFYuLPMSsQmIutL0N94tWehrUH7dTbZlotrAvu0UHMmD48o6SuU9Y8c7OxmCX9PEUPpDEF3KtfW8tZLDKEU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2142:b0:48e:c20e:3fe with SMTP id bq2-20020a056402214200b0048ec20e03femr2897119edb.151.1674521956338; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:59:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 17:59:05 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000060544e05f2f806f9" Message-ID-Hash: TEL5LHBBW34BYONZBC4GTKWKKN4BUWUS X-Message-ID-Hash: TEL5LHBBW34BYONZBC4GTKWKKN4BUWUS X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: interesting case of not getting the point: dc on a mac List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000060544e05f2f806f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I was hoping for a better easter egg. I dunno about y'all but when I see ">>>" .... my mind goes a certain place. Alas, no. adam@m1-wired:~/git/phalanx/services/nublado$ dc >>> boot dqa0 Parse error: bad character 't' :1 On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 2:09 PM Joseph Holsten wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 06:15, Dan Cross wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:41 PM George Michaelson > wrote: > >> I should also also add, Mac has >>> as Rob noted. FreeBSD doesn't > > > > Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running? > > My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the > > next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` prompt. My > > laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does. > > > > I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstream of > them. > > Per https://opensource.apple.com/releases/, they switched from > macOS Monterey 12 with GNU bc 1.06 > https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-21/bc > to macOS 13 with GH bc 4.0.2 > https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-26/bc > > I suspect this is similar to the replacement of bash with zsh for GPL > avoidance. > > Interesting timeline though, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/4.0.2 > was released in 2021-05-01, https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/5.0.0 > in 2021-08-08. > --00000000000060544e05f2f806f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was hoping for a better easter egg.=C2=A0 I dunno a= bout y'all but when I see ">>>" .... my mind goes a = certain place.=C2=A0 Alas, no.

adam@m1-wired:~= /git/phalanx/services/nublado$ dc
>>> boot dqa0

Parse er= ror: bad character 't'
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <stdin>:1

On= Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 2:09 PM Joseph Holsten <joseph@josephholsten.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 06:15, D= an Cross wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 10:41 PM George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
>> I should also also add, Mac has >>> as=C2=A0 Rob noted. F= reeBSD doesn't
>
> Hmm, interesting. I wonder what version of macOS you both are running?=
> My old trashcan Mac (soon to be replaced!) is running the
> next-to-most-recent version and doesn't have the `>>> ` p= rompt. My
> laptop, running the latest (Ventura?) does.
>
> I don't think I blame Apple for this, but rather something upstrea= m of them.

Per https://opensource.apple.com/releases/, they switched = from
macOS Monterey 12 with GNU bc 1.06 https:= //github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-21/bc
to macOS 13 with GH bc 4.0.2 https://gith= ub.com/apple-oss-distributions/bc/tree/bc-26/bc

I suspect this is similar to the replacement of bash with zsh for GPL avoid= ance.

Interesting timeline though, https://git.yzena.com/gavin= /bc/src/tag/4.0.2 was released in 2021-05-01, https:= //git.yzena.com/gavin/bc/src/tag/5.0.0 in 2021-08-08.
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