From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c57eba69 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EC4699BCBC; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 03:24:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2756C9BBCF; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 03:24:27 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="aQxmS7tE"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ED3739BBCF; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 03:24:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f49.google.com (mail-ot1-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56F59948D7 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 03:24:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f49.google.com with SMTP id m19so5974634otp.1 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DAUAxrUrI9IqsJ8lxH4v1X5Vm7vcEzHvrU7+NygqDgs=; b=aQxmS7tElFvDwYL+Aq3RdKgy6szyDGb5hrdTbU7qaJi/i6vTlMW5T5PVHucGJpzYkP 63VXd1h041iQ5lYDApQVD4Y3bd4uPQ16q0Ud08C8FWcAHdC7E6d8mqXlyN3T/TMxNrig BpQ4Lj9kZWdVU7OaEgHiid7Az5c3rSgNtU02NfO0ahuDvY55/Fpn1EpHSH9Q6SrzDBcG BPZHyWYL6fEzFIi/Th+ak650wJh4HZAQTURBsg5WniUBFmSvv3gHd2YOPvXOeg32cIbz Ocn6uCV/lMBT6maK9ObjJY+KHrQu5V8NchXCg1cLULkP6+CgEJC/WQN1dX1YytJfQl7j WvtA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=DAUAxrUrI9IqsJ8lxH4v1X5Vm7vcEzHvrU7+NygqDgs=; b=fIbmd9uHUgizz6ww1KypAy5TDuUSybtfiobaXpCz9Fc9xQtFauhQRS32z1a2D2Hp/z OGesoQXeIBkLwtLeOeYDiirLLBVVKWdLJNZpYUcKdIE1nhhoVYQ3mVDXaPV3aD7yjo1T T1Ip9ZrrjFU8eC6XBzJiJEx7rsXWo1HytTe1L7Cl3G/uckEkv6XVNeHLee3N8Eyvb72e JYiasf3TyZr2JswZBj8BRp79j+la80FW4e/m7l9Ah8BHHh0c5pg2KH+8ifY/aNKSzZea NMYnQl5Q43geMBl1Zo+NaF6UmZzAOcKM3yS4r7h+rm4fzPxJXWcpQvO1PZYOzytyA8ox PI9w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWFSioQIPVKkUCMzkvev9d6Y1/UJwr5r60hHx7SJlXp1Xh4QanI POhQfANTHeDUmwZG6/568u8Vk6xqUdlPp6LEmKMNW/B8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxMxesbliyXSMYqvyx0+mxMvkMkj7wq1zA3XKhHQBmfvTDg6zINxUDBr+L0Du8HX2Ea6owH9JCPMkI2xsbe69o= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:664:: with SMTP id 91mr11219636otn.189.1570209863246; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:24:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191004042034.GS13997@mcvoy.com> <20191004145750.GA1466863@lap> <4ba947af-00c7-53ee-046a-3b6306e5d1f0@andrewnesbit.org> <389f5a69-e103-7ec3-9b95-3e6e294a86e6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <389f5a69-e103-7ec3-9b95-3e6e294a86e6@gmail.com> From: Adam Thornton Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 10:24:11 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001f2975059418f98b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] eqn X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000001f2975059418f98b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" A modern TeX would probably look a lot like SILE: http://sile-typesetter.org/ Simon's a smart guy. It's a pretty neat project. On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:13 AM Jon Forrest wrote: > > One slightly OT fact about TeX. On my 16GB, Core i7, SATA SSD > Lenovo T430s laptop running Fedora 30, it takes ~3 seconds to run TeX on > the ~900 page TeXBook. That's pretty fast. TeX contains all kinds of > code to make it fit in the constraints of a 1980s computer. I wonder > whether a redesign for a 2020 computer would be faster or slower. > > I suspect, but can't prove, that classic [nt]roff might also > benefit in the same way. groff was written latter, so it might > suffer less. > > Jon > --0000000000001f2975059418f98b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A modern TeX would probably look a lot like SILE:


Simon's a smart guy.=C2=A0 = It's a pretty neat project.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:13 AM Jon= Forrest <nobozo@gmail.com> w= rote:

One slightly OT fact about TeX. On my 16GB, Core i7, SATA SSD
Lenovo T430s laptop running Fedora 30, it takes ~3 seconds to run TeX on the ~900 page TeXBook. That's pretty fast. TeX contains all kinds of code to make it fit in the constraints of a 1980s computer. I wonder
whether a redesign for a 2020 computer would be faster or slower.

I suspect, but can't prove, that classic [nt]roff might also
benefit in the same way. groff was written latter, so it might
suffer less.

Jon
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