From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6941 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2023 01:59:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Jun 2023 01:59:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE8B41496; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:59:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com (mail-ej1-x630.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::630]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2355410A3 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:59:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-97454836448so29159266b.2 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1686707967; x=1689299967; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iZjkBOOt2z1gOE7oOusDUtletUHMp6MH1nTUgJlGDuE=; b=afw8iIS2L+CM+B630BIlW8CKsjMVUoDTzqnaMGB+8GuskVtKpTZHqeq8TH6NqG1UnZ RdeeFI+ODse5YZd3gfcXtJJ4rBVTcTCdBMq3v1iAt5Dy5so0KJL2XHu29ecowrJrHSGd 99rwRYaI2/0hOUSv0Ec33DoS7/ZP/U5s/e/MA2d9Qgj1QN3iACd/xmkXybPZNkjNzmEy cEYplkrNNgZwi2aCNucD2Pys0o7wmaiS9M23JAcMNoR1vqYg8/GiROTjeg+qDH8lhp5T dssoekG/R54dZypwPNMHnb6qL82ell9XvjbZ0OLoshmyhpxv44F3RsCcQnoHC9ciSwp+ 7uTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686707967; x=1689299967; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iZjkBOOt2z1gOE7oOusDUtletUHMp6MH1nTUgJlGDuE=; b=jdWL9PGoyT31DsnCzGrZ9o9hWGH5Tw+SQdLusdIT4+J48YF9vIocRzFjttjUQwX18w 4imA+YNhg35n95NMvNLECE2V0M4Exf64NyB1bIDgJHmbrcyoQxUmetPjA0yFD6UpOsNi B+2QH02HIVve8kK/Pva2XZDBH/tNxi8JVlXxVDa22Ni8sy+elYNZraPDUu16MStWK3IF wU6/BrA8cEPsE2UCjytR2ykSldnZh41l+8DzbwYcmzLnIn3KPR5s2bbJCy/RhAa0BF3h kB+2ZZyB1WkHVsmTAJXzLxd+QwnzmV6z6UfsZaYpuTicyqM4N4n6ptHH8VR4vLxUJObR jZXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDyU9VU4PLzJrgXfUnhzLp/RNaR4ffuIXXyubmczbCWtER+xvrfE IswgN/poGwGCk7m9vExaWqC9CkZBLNrG6KlH9erfj5qQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7MRPjt32ZdRhL6rEZ1sbIhPxtRz1wuJlg6Fb+mePRv3ZO1PuHMxJj5CHL1uZYxNnk47p5T9DVPLODbk+v9oik= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:3e13:b0:974:625d:183f with SMTP id hp19-20020a1709073e1300b00974625d183fmr15360091ejc.36.1686707966170; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:59:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230612213912.mywv5znz66pk3n5q@illithid> <20230612234953.pwu7oi6hyglsaqzs@illithid> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:59:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000029db2c05fe0d4dd0" Message-ID-Hash: KZFLB2QTDVZ26XMJOY3BNMHEH7UUHL5M X-Message-ID-Hash: KZFLB2QTDVZ26XMJOY3BNMHEH7UUHL5M X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [COFF] Re: Re: crt0 -- what's in that name? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000029db2c05fe0d4dd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 9:29=E2=80=AFAM Paul Winalski wrote: > > VMS (officially OpenVMS; I hated that marketing name when it was first > proposed and I hate it now) is still alive and supported by a company > called VMS Software, Inc. (VSI). Here is a pointer to their document > OpenVMS Programming Concepts, Volume II, which describes the CLE in > detail: > > I think it's worth mentioning that the OpenVMS Hobbyist Program is still alive and well and recently began supplying x86_64 licenses to hobbyists, so if you have a reasonably modern amd64 system, you can run it under QEMU. --00000000000029db2c05fe0d4dd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 9:29=E2=80=AF= AM Paul Winalski <paul.winals= ki@gmail.com> wrote:

VMS (officially OpenVMS; I hated that marketing name when it was first
proposed and I hate it now) is still alive and supported by a company
called VMS Software, Inc. (VSI).=C2=A0 Here is a pointer to their document<= br> OpenVMS Programming Concepts, Volume II, which describes the CLE in
detail:


I think it's worth mentioning that= the OpenVMS Hobbyist Program is still alive and well and recently began su= pplying x86_64 licenses to hobbyists, so if you have a reasonably modern am= d64 system, you can run it under QEMU.
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