From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1016 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2020 19:35:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jul 2020 19:35:34 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 17E389C730; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 05:35:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A9C9C74B; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 05:35:00 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="cuEFfCmQ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3C3449C72C; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 05:34:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f174.google.com (mail-pl1-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99DF99C735 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 05:34:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f174.google.com with SMTP id d10so13801287pls.5 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WBHtNzd+gpmanNwRFa8DzRJMfSicgVMUJxdBk59edxs=; b=cuEFfCmQz7xj8Pcq60CryAuQbWetHKd7ojxfMhmbxHWf9FdcDVxjBdSzq3tGB+RMXX XDazUeH9BFRNS4MysEqlPL+3nq9AViAgDE6R7L5Mq/0Y39Q+sx++nH3LgcCuynOXX2Ys vikFekmn7Mj8xspB9GNgpy7eKJo9o3wctjOcgPoyxefeKSVTKYhZd4CfKa+UmzShS4G3 nRE2r5gZMCNFXDFFfSftc49UCYvAQOxPNryyNXsnE8uGuRjdL427b8rBh1m1RtSFqskO t4+6pnt4o1yf+DqiVWzjv2cYyq47WauW98SVJNPPatMkMw5DntrWJ+8WU/8ZJyAsck/X yDPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WBHtNzd+gpmanNwRFa8DzRJMfSicgVMUJxdBk59edxs=; b=JvWJgBGY7WLEVZ7WdollsTGRCkKZTO57L6OKY9Fl91bra1eKam83nlrSYApkRtyNTR e0bbkM/09yY2qdQKQ+mn3SegK77S1rnlShr6BCzHeRDfDNI3db7LkfQ76guqBBc/U7xN Y8S8XA82Gh8ko7biERtywuOUtWsg2XCG9z2BnEv0nOJlJIBVEY1+wti0w34tWGEA8dte 2F21S0MkRsDrR83s75/5TU/nH6g+nzyDJVkzF2/MGLcJqkccDomM+nytIoRbuO2Kwzyi 6yKJK0ZduacCj55E+Ovo4F8/OUlURUST0NV2ayAMfnpa9uOs6kMmGpffKZLKjkRDyPrP PiiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533notsZjabpteWJhyy56Y34/WcN1H8s5y/DDStOWGnELdnmTWV6 mIFjNcy4OwmydzYgsxipCapeTkrK4StrB4/3e78= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyEGcPTEurTFwYxxV1IlYLzEuvJaG7+q54T8B0wiojEMCofDICRuBF4Eb41j+/bsoGY8bqnR9fGOARbrUwVoM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:ca90:: with SMTP id y16mr24926751pjt.223.1593891293995; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 12:34:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 12:34:42 -0700 Message-ID: To: John Cowan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000063a4b605a9a2bcb8" Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 uucp debugging help requested X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000063a4b605a9a2bcb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I don't know of the other tools being available, but...it does look like I will have this book on Interlibrary Loan for .... quite a while longer. No promises, but if I get bored this summer..... Adam On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:34 AM John Cowan wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Adam Thornton wrote: > > The "s" editor is written by Webb Miller and appears in his book "A >> Software Tools Sampler." >> > > Wow, I never knew about this book, though I know ST and STP well, and used > ST on RSX-11/M+ and VAX/VMS for $EMPLOYER in the 1980s. Is the rest of the > source code for the book available online anywhere? > > Jez Higgins is rewriting the STP tools into modern C++. His blog posts > are at and the > code is at . He's rewritten the > tools in chapters 1 and 2 and part of 3. > > Since I find ed thoroughly unpleasant to use, having a screen editor was a >> must for me to use v7 for any length of time, and s fills that role rather >> nicely. >> > > Gotcha. I actually like line editors (you can't mung your file so > thoroughly with a single stray keystroke), but I'm willing to trade a > little standardosity for additional convenience, so I do almost all my > editing of prose and programs in `ex`, occasionally dropping into vi-mode > for matching open and close markers in Lisp and XML. > > > > John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org > If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, it has been said, then > you are on a well-traveled road of spiritual inquiry. If you are > absolutely sure you are in hell, however, then you must be on the Cross > Bronx Expressway. --Alan Feuer, New York Times, 2002-09-20 > > --00000000000063a4b605a9a2bcb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know of the other tools being available, = but...it does look like I will have this book on Interlibrary Loan for ....= quite a while longer.

No promises, but if I get b= ored this summer.....

Adam

On Sat, Jul 4,= 2020 at 11:34 AM John Cowan <cowan@cc= il.org> wrote:


On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM= Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:

The "s" editor is written by Webb Miller and appea= rs in his book "A Software Tools Sampler."=C2=A0

Wow, I never knew about this book, though I kn= ow ST and STP well, and used ST on RSX-11/M+ and VAX/VMS for $EMPLOYER in t= he 1980s.=C2=A0 Is the rest of the source code for the book available onlin= e=C2=A0anywhere?

Jez Higgins is rewriting the STP = tools into modern C++.=C2=A0 His blog posts are at <https://w= ww.jezuk.co.uk/tags/software-tools-in-c++.html> and the code is at &= lt;https:/= /github.com/jezhiggins/stiX>.=C2=A0 He's rewritten the tools in = chapters 1 and 2 and part of 3.

Since I find ed thoroughly= unpleasant to use, having a screen editor was a must for me to use v7 for = any length of time, and s fills that role rather nicely.

Gotcha.=C2=A0 I actually like line editors (y= ou can't mung your file so thoroughly with a single stray keystroke), b= ut I'm willing to trade a little standardosity for additional convenien= ce, so I do almost all my editing of prose and programs in `ex`, occasional= ly dropping into vi-mode for matching open and close markers in Lisp and XM= L.



John Cowan =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0cowan@ccil.orgIf you have ever wondered if you are in hell, it has been said, then
y= ou are on a well-traveled road of spiritual inquiry.=C2=A0 If you are
ab= solutely sure you are in hell, however, then you must be on the Cross
Br= onx Expressway. =C2=A0--Alan Feuer, New York Times, 2002-09-20

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