On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:03 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > arnold@skeeve.com writes: > Programming today is taught as if it consists of importing libraries > and gluing function calls together. > To be fair, this is basically what modern software development in enterprise settings is. Thing is, you don’t need a CS degree for that; it’s a completely artificial barrier to entry. You need an apprenticeship. That’s even kind of acknowledged, in that by your third job, no one cares where or if you went to school or what for. Anyway, my question for you all is, how do we as seasoned practitioners > leverage our experience to contribute to the state of the art? Any of > you found a way to pass on your knowledge? > Find someone who’s interested and talk to them? I mean, that’s kinda what this list is, right? The other part: it’s historically been a crap shoot whether the CS department at any given place came out of EE, in which case it was the bottom-up here’s a transistor, and here’s a flip-flop, and, look, logic gates! Adders! Et cetera, or it came out of the math department and is a theory-heavy specialization of some very particular parts of discrete mathematics and combinatorics.