Getting a bit far afield from Unixes, but A Quick Rundown Of Instruction Sets I Have Known, more or less in the order I learned them: 6502: you never forget your first love, and, sure, it's constrained, but it's elegant and concise and I still adore it. 68k: Lovely. I used it before I ever used the PDP-11, but in retrospect it's like the PDP-11 but more so. Roomy, comfortable, regular. Too bad it lost to x86 in the marketplace. 8051: I mean, OK, I get it, you need a low-cost embedded architecture and it's the 1980s, but...yuck. x86-and-descendents: the less said the better. Maybe I just don't like Intel's designs? SPARC: It's not bad. Having lots of registers is nice. But by the time it came along compilers were good enough that I never actually needed to use it in anger. S/360-and-descendents: The S/360 is OK, even nice, in a very 1960s IBM way. And then its evolution just KEPT adding ever more baroque filigrees onto it. Don't get me wrong, I love SIE, because I love VM, but even that is kind of a bag on the side, and by the time you get to System z...this is what happens when you don't start over from a clean sheet every so often. PDP-11: There's a very good reason it was used as a model architecture in coursework for decades. Also regular and comfortable. TI-99/4A (more or less TI 9900): I like microcode as much as anyone but honestly this is pretty silly here, folks. These days I'm kinda sorta poking at RISC-V and ARM. Not that I need to, but they seem nifty. Adam On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:15 PM Noel Chiappa wrote: > > The ++ operator appears to have been. > > One would expect that most people on this list would have read "The > Development of the C Language", by Dennis Ritchie, which makes perfectly > clear > (at 'More History') that the PDP-11 had nothing to do with it: > > Thompson went a step further by inventing the ++ and -- operators, which > increment or decrement; their prefix or postfix position determines > whether > the alteration occurs before or after noting the value of the operand. > They > were not in the earliest versions of B, but appeared along the way. > People > often guess that they were created to use the auto-increment and > auto-decrement address modes provided by the DEC PDP-11 on which C and > Unix > first became popular. This is historically impossible, since there was no > PDP-11 when B was developed. > > https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/chist.html > > thereby alleviating the need for Ken to chime in (although they do allow a > very efficient implementation of it). > > Too much to hope for, I guess. > > Noel > >