From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15878 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2022 01:05:33 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Dec 2022 01:05:33 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E884237B; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:05:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com (mail-ej1-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38EF74237A for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 11:05:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id bj12so25596674ejb.13 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 17:05:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sKdgCb1Cf2OYSMZ5KLWXawD8TUyeAo5+DfsxXyMuo6Q=; b=ovW80F6LAj+Hc1d9C0Ti/tDX5eHzdceO8DxC1HwB0IW6y+hua96kPUJ+f1/MQXE5aE KsQKG1jF4BPDDxXZYCkAkbMZZUx5KqcGffHLx05Nd+b/qNy+fWMGRLDkKAofM1KtqbcS 5LkK+54A9AkbUOc0NUM3RIZDJ7e4QUbh3yyrZQ7MRGqpMbURNnccjdjJzSW0MtwnM4P9 Y+wARXH70Sm2fcgigrwYgNJfpwB2+xUp7/DaMlhtdVa1v4KiN+jC+L/+OOlaWKmZGpwK mFyq5mK7wdJFnpvujkzZRjS01bDyI5c7sjedWrtlsuEwGmBZotDkGenvBPs7Gu+0C4r9 iizg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sKdgCb1Cf2OYSMZ5KLWXawD8TUyeAo5+DfsxXyMuo6Q=; b=bnEhHx+ykg/3cNeBmYva6rDxW6ATlaHJ6AmXSPL1jPH77ToDarhCL9yCrxN7CYuDpL lcb+a5X+5UfPAFWDId4hpS47cgsTJ4a4lrPBTTcTeOYx1GPhebRMZcPOuHy7PtUHn9tj y7YTkzwoxeUixlZrb7KrqqirWb59lVGEiLBJwDwdYHxdiFhIEC37+jOvcH4E3k7rkt7l oXaqfytKYI4zwlWBsl0QlI4iskwZEnm9U6WEXwfyH9c5nswmZyBZjo85ZvhOJypD/jHC h/3L0zaQvO0mvYaxwkgz7q+tttWCCks+FrIMbC9sSOKgQnNMVzijTTedb8K+cDBy4jfC BTgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pnyAch2X6peP0ORp5+a0NM8cvA9xJJ+JHpVU6Wa1XPHjh5W6Ui2 YzoZuPmsvenGVYFiq3xZ5ukCgHj670ei7I3DtD0gnPVF X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf7iqaP6jGsqqpBUhBjD63qPAC/iIRAUAztuMlDjiqchy4dYuwszUco5bWxKHAtVI5NGS8ZEeafYWM42Aad/k3o= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:240f:b0:7c0:f7b0:fbbb with SMTP id z15-20020a170906240f00b007c0f7b0fbbbmr18012090eja.266.1671498260280; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 17:04:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 18:04:09 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000bfac505f03804c5" Message-ID-Hash: K5RI23RGPGQ4EYQB6B7G4P4HO62AW4XQ X-Message-ID-Hash: K5RI23RGPGQ4EYQB6B7G4P4HO62AW4XQ X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX on (not quite bare) System/370 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000000bfac505f03804c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If anyone wants to play with UTS--the version I'm running has sources that indicate it's pretty much a v7--you can connect to it at https://mvsevm.fsf.net, resize your window so the terminal is 80x25, pick option 11 (VM/370), hit enter, and then after the logo goes away type "DIAL UTS". The passwords are findable via a web search for something like "uts vm/370 password" in that I have not changed them from the defaults. If you manage to break out of UTS into VM, and from there into Hercules, and from that to the physical host, and then from there compromise my network, I'd like to know how you did it. If on the other hand you're going to mine bitcoin with my UTS VM guest, you can cost me literally dozens of cents a month in electricity, probably. I have not played with the 3270 libraries, but they exist. The two full-screen 3270 utilities I am aware of are ned and man. Ned's really rather a lovely little editor. Other than that it feels a lot like a stock v7, but of course the terminal is linemode. The command to log out is "logoff". Adam --0000000000000bfac505f03804c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If anyone wants to play with UT= S--the version I'm running has sources that indicate it's pretty mu= ch a v7--you can connect to it at https:= //mvsevm.fsf.net, resize your window so the terminal is 80x25, pick opt= ion 11 (VM/370), hit enter, and then after the logo goes away type "DI= AL UTS".

The passwords are findable via a web search for something like &quo= t;uts vm/370 password" in that I have not changed them from the defaul= ts.=C2=A0 If you manage to break out of UTS into VM, and from there into He= rcules, and from that to the physical host, and then from there compromise = my network, I'd like to know how you did it.=C2=A0 If on the other hand= you're going to mine bitcoin with my UTS VM guest, you can cost me lit= erally dozens of cents a month in electricity, probably.

I have not played wi= th the 3270 libraries, but they exist.=C2=A0 The two full-screen 3270 utili= ties I am aware of are ned and man.=C2=A0 Ned's really rather a lovely = little editor.=C2=A0 Other than that it feels a lot like a stock v7, but of= course the terminal is linemode.=C2=A0 The command to log out is "log= off".

Adam
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