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From: Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Thanks for Virtuallyfun! (was Re: Happy birthday, 386BSD!)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:47:17 -0700
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Jason Stevens jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com via
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en>
outdoorexpressionslimited.onmicrosoft.com wrote:
> 1988-1993 was so incredibly pivotal, much more than say 2014-2019.  I
wonder if we will ever see such a powerful window of change like that ever
again.

We did but no one was paying attention.  It was 2007-2010.  The iPhone and
Android were introduced, and the computing world went from an
Intel-architecture monopoly (which it had pretty much become by 2005) to an
Intel/ARM duopoly (because Intel and AMD focused too much on performance
and not enough on making a low-power implementation of the architecture; an
Intel-compatible chip *could* have won the mobile wars, but didn't).  In
the next couple years iPhone and Android (both on ARM) massacred all of the
mobile competition.

That also meant that the underlying OS for mobile devices became, you
guessed it, Unix (or at least something that smells a lot like it).  Which
is weird, given that something designed for single-threaded composible
text-filtering operations is now running almost all of the world's
multithreaded user-facing graphical applications, but that's the vagaries
of history for you.

Adam

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:08 AM Jason Stevens <
jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote:

> It's always nice to get such nice fan mail.   Ever since the early days of
> SIMH and PUPS I've been a fan of the idea of being able to help others
> discover and run ancient Unix.
>
> It's amazing how fast things moved when looking back at the 5 years after
> the wide stream adoption of the 80386, and how many things have risen and
> fallen in that time period, how many failed to only come back and win.
>
> 1988-1993 was so incredibly pivotal, much more than say 2014-2019.  I
> wonder if we will ever see such a powerful window of change like that ever
> again.
>
> Definitely a happy birthday to 386BSD!
>
>
> From: Michael Huff
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 4:18 PM
> Subject: [TUHS] Thanks for Virtuallyfun! (was Re:  Happy birthday, 386BSD!)
> To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
>
>
> Hi
> Personally, I'm very grateful for the amount of time you've spent not
> simply finding and posting the things you do (this, cmu mach, the BSD and
> Unix stuff) but also the blog entries you write that spell out the steps
> you take to get it all running.
> As someone who came along much later (slackware 3.5?, freebsd
> 2.2-something) but has a lot of interest/curiosity about what the older
> days were like it's very helpful and illuminating.
> Oh! ...and of course, Happy Birthday 386BSD!
> Regards,
> -a Virtuallyfun fan/reader
> On 7/13/2019 10:53 PM, Jason Stevens wrote:
> Getting this to build was such a tremendous effort.  Although last time I
> revisited my 386BSD 0.0 work even under emulation it ran too fast and had
> issues.
>
> But it's really a tremendous effort what Bill and Lynne had done, by
> pushing out not only a running version of Net/2 but a self hosting version
> of Net/2 for the lowly and utterly common and commodity 386.
>
> Its a shame the BSDSS and later N2SS from CMU (ports of 4.4 / Net/2) to
> Mach 3.  But that USL vs BSDi/CSRG lawsuit cut short what should have the
> shot heard around the world moment.
>
> It was shockingly hard to chase down 386BSD  0.0 just as it was to find
> NetBSD 0.8 and 0.9
>
> Im just sad I was in the dark about BSD at that time, all the Unix people
> I knew hid behind their RS/6000s and SUN workstations while me and all my
> peers were all all running Linux.
>
> But there is nothing like the feeling of running make world, or building a
> custom kernel when compared to just running a binary set.
>
> Since 0.1 is more capable, here is a download for Windows users for it
> ready to run.
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0.4/386BSD-0.1.exe/download
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM +0800, "Dave Horsfall" <dave@horsfall.org>
> wrote:
>
> 386BSD was released on this day in 1992, when William and Lynne Jolitz
> started the Open Source movement; well, that's what my notes say, and
> corrections are welcome (I know that Gilmore likes to take credit for just
> about everything). -- Dave
>
>
>
>

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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-14  5:56 [TUHS] Happy birthday, 386BSD! Dave Horsfall
2019-07-14  6:01 ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-14  7:15   ` Ed Carp
2019-07-14  8:14     ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-14  6:15 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2019-07-14  6:23   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2019-07-17  0:38     ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-14  6:53 ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-14  8:17   ` [TUHS] Thanks for Virtuallyfun! (was Re: Happy birthday, 386BSD!) Michael Huff
2019-07-14  9:07     ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-14 17:47       ` Adam Thornton [this message]
2019-07-15  1:54         ` Jason Stevens
2019-07-14  7:13 ` [TUHS] Happy birthday, 386BSD! Ed Carp
2019-07-14 12:52   ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-07-14 19:19 [TUHS] Thanks for Virtuallyfun! (was Re: Happy birthday, 386BSD!) Noel Chiappa
2019-07-15  9:33 ` Wesley Parish

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