From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 9517 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 17:21:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 17:21:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0926042478; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 03:21:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com (mail-ej1-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D43D842477 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 03:20:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id mp20so7468021ejc.7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Y3IoVt/Ca4QzxB2jrz1ysQ+/LAegCpR5LeNBiK0VtIA=; b=Xfbrb5h8YptIeu4eD53Zx6J6GJwt5jQn/TAttXew4/LSyyRxq4K/neg6kiG2kd8yCo NDlZ5HemsGg29vXMETJ/XGJmZFE7+fym2tzmEgj3gp4f0b7hdRqAs8Cx1Jdcoia5x92C B270IJBlqLRMavLTHCBhaDpTX64vKMLm7leDuMc0svddsujUtZaJkrTH76+kYhOmxJBE ID/uE9Wur0etd9JlxerEIsD/gKozY7ngF3FTa8EWlPRRMnZTh2fNO604BJQ7Rtmy/E5F KPXBWzUEvZ3BxpWM9EuJOzbggUdeYTzRJRDHvsOkideFRCLe3VKJlcSjwPSpNIokGPB/ /J1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Y3IoVt/Ca4QzxB2jrz1ysQ+/LAegCpR5LeNBiK0VtIA=; b=kwLISmdPfJZ8m+KaT9gVM9pFPfie8FfG1cuOCDLqs6gbu/kCXN+Rw1h5uYkYItPkBu B50fZEazni4/XZsJOLTh48ej4HwxhwI3E1ZuR8mgtbqcS0vv8cVunphYf+7EFGaEnkU6 XOTeL12mVQsHdHr9oz4xA2K+KS8kmq4sQ97D2TSqwQBFsvxUikr7VLnwjUcpdiC54o23 gnk4sYRQFr8ljxDL3MVfMIxWu9+v/ZU3paMw9zHZ8VZ1Vj9Q09UZabmhQyjJLaEt9KfV QYY2U10gY2BVZM3CC43Pxz7YNM3p+1orz4FQ3/dmfyZmQuJvDwja+PaFwIpad3HAJCbP eovg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kq83Hgfcl7O38ogtTwg7lOyGN9e0ggzcoXkqqZ0LDHQDYf4VkBH QxGXcPNdHLK6G2Dds6ksDJ5kmLpw3jTGaU6DjOOJqNmi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuwxZnFtluWE5SJ7KboCkPVxbB38nm/+JQinH5/NZNCaLkQ5A2jLMI7NYpuVC8zaiawn/+Da8KDBcAa/0IjwOc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:280b:b0:850:f78e:f6b2 with SMTP id r11-20020a170906280b00b00850f78ef6b2mr1080711ejc.656.1674148794056; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:19:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Thornton Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:19:42 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002bc50205f2a124d8" Message-ID-Hash: 6ZCHBAKLXHOCNAG3DZCH54Q53Q3L3GIG X-Message-ID-Hash: 6ZCHBAKLXHOCNAG3DZCH54Q53Q3L3GIG X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000002bc50205f2a124d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The era of general-purpose computers won't end. The problem is that a great many single-purpose items are (and increasingly will be), for reasons of scale/developer availability/familiarity, general-purpose computers that come from the factory supposedly packaged to do only one thing. But all of them will have brains that will let them do arbitrary things. Some of these things will be done at the behest of the organizations controlling the society where the developers come from. Some of them will be done at the behest of transnational organized crime rings. Some will be done by enthusiasts. But I don't think we are too far from the world where you can't trust your toothbrush unless you carved it yourself from a stick with a knife that's been in your family for generations. But really, this is all just "Reflections on Trusting Trust," which was, what, 1984? --0000000000002bc50205f2a124d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The era of general-purpose computers won't end.

The problem is that a great many single-purpose ite= ms are (and increasingly will be), for reasons of scale/developer availabil= ity/familiarity, general-purpose computers that come from the factory suppo= sedly packaged to do only one thing.

But all of th= em will have brains that will let them do arbitrary things.=C2=A0 Some of t= hese things will be done at the behest of the organizations controlling the= society where the developers come from.=C2=A0 Some of them will be done at= the behest of transnational organized crime rings.=C2=A0 Some will be done= by enthusiasts.=C2=A0 But I don't think we are too far from the world = where you can't trust your toothbrush unless you carved it yourself fro= m a stick with a knife that's been in your family for generations.

But really, this is all just "Reflections on Trus= ting Trust," which was, what, 1984?
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