From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f17b3d83 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9C9B69B9B2; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:25:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDC69478E; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:25:01 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="X86H1rR+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D78D89478E; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:24:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f44.google.com (mail-ot1-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7070F93D23 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:24:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id c10so32802198otd.9 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:24:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=AAP0JnymABD6zvQbxviO8qxuE61AZGK/yGJ2rlqfnQw=; b=X86H1rR+bZiapNEOXvLfEa2A0uk63g2gvS/tSC+kChH4Pnj/PB3CpAZ4rGZ9rSE2Kp Ky4lsfYuZRC6tTZmsBP40Jtgqlh64XAv+RHjw2esuVNKtWk4mXwR6BzYVbVKtsyVZjAO PfUTwtJOS/FkcDR9Hs+xOmX8APVDuZ4TTuE8dXpC6NS4LkGzoD1F1Ooo29Pni4GfifBt 6uIfrCaSC/uZDqrD2lFdccqqNG7W+GE4gjMfA4t4vPUjAE/krFJtxJR9ym/4nb7g/rjK kdu6JYorxiWG+Jsca6kgItAzH7TFRZTCrYR1Pc6gx+1WBsm/YIPiEaB05/7d5/CEKGeF kcJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=AAP0JnymABD6zvQbxviO8qxuE61AZGK/yGJ2rlqfnQw=; b=hSFRdLazuHduS1KQApMV/t7HxjK1sEjab5KWbpWA5VGZJ6KsHNevi4bLj6A0CFFjo7 UHrdU8CqaTRXZCLtsYOgOOmjjWzWzUEY1ZCe2kFhoBtgHEPlxUvYqz+82cN608MsZKs3 p0GZlGIw2MSwVFFQZQCDlKolxW1MNSYLOMOO5wqSeDjfv35ZvtmdmQ96NuvBGCZPtC65 doed8Tue2tBJzrzIYDXcw/pHZ6Uw0UnvEZGHjuXGIhruua4F8Uv1VQELKwDsGE2Ll7AB nkOrc5X/49k0uMJ0PWG0MOQoTHC5b21kKuFDogcSr7cCREtxwz6+JWDNcROMKQnUTbsw jUKg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVUPeLpuMKAtmtWYN62Fg5yKxLIngwVvs+soflEjB+OTFbiPoZa iWgZlHwGM/7GDnZmwc4AljbAijYqSqR16E8XhfayB17xSgo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwk2qzGLcD4T9bZ7PLHzTsHg04WEnWqacOeX1kZP0RxHJapzaxoyEnjA/vtfY0+rhBAw+4sK+wIqiPM6JN5nYQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1584:: with SMTP id i4mr5678401otr.57.1568517897321; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:24:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201909150218.x8F2Iba3018530@darkstar.fourwinds.com> In-Reply-To: <201909150218.x8F2Iba3018530@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Adam Thornton Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:24:46 -0700 Message-ID: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001802b905928f088d" Subject: Re: [TUHS] a book (was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000001802b905928f088d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" JonSteinhart said: > just write whatever you want and wait for Clem to correct you and fill in the details Thanks for giving away my deepest secret for being a contributor to Open Source projects. The trick is, you write _something_ that does what you need, no matter how horrid, and put it out there, and wait for the screams to roll in and then someone who knows what they're doing to implement it correctly. Works almost every time. Adam On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 7:19 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 7:31 PM wrote: > > > There needs to be a book with stuff like this. There is no Unix history > > book that I have ever seen with the depth of information in threads like > > this and others on TUHS. It would be a huge project and hard to tell if > > there would me more than just recognition and intrinsic rewards for the > > effort -- but maybe that is enough. > > So having just finished a book project and therefore having a bit of a clue > as to what it would take, I'd be willing to take a stab at coordinating a > project like this. But it's not clear to me what the audience should be. > Many of the folks on this list are obsessive with details that matter to, > well, only people on this list. To make a good book I think that it would > have to trace the major paths, innovations, and people. In any case, this > would be easy - just write whatever you want and wait for Clem to correct > you and fill in the details :-) > > Jon > --0000000000001802b905928f088d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
JonSteinhart said:

> just= write whatever you want and wait for Clem to correct you and fill in the d= etails

Thanks for giving away my deepest secr= et for being a contributor to Open Source projects.=C2=A0 The trick is, you= write _something_ that does what you need, no matter how horrid, and put i= t out there, and wait for the screams to roll in and then someone who knows= what they're doing to implement it correctly.

Works almost every time.

Adam
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On Sat= , Sep 14, 2019 at 7:19 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 7:31 PM <reed@reedmedia.net> wrote:
> There needs to be a book with stuff like this. There is no Unix histor= y
> book that I have ever seen with the depth of information in threads li= ke
> this and others on TUHS.=C2=A0 It would be a huge project and hard to = tell if
> there would me more than just recognition and intrinsic rewards for th= e
> effort -- but maybe that is enough.

So having just finished a book project and therefore having a bit of a clue=
as to what it would take, I'd be willing to take a stab at coordinating= a
project like this.=C2=A0 But it's not clear to me what the audience sho= uld be.
Many of the folks on this list are obsessive with details that matter to, well, only people on this list.=C2=A0 To make a good book I think that it w= ould
have to trace the major paths, innovations, and people.=C2=A0 In any case, = this
would be easy - just write whatever you want and wait for Clem to correct you and fill in the details :-)

Jon
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