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From: Ben Walton <bdwalton@gmail.com>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 22:35:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP30j16dmpc4ogd9JfmzbvHFWSCy-7304ig-QCRgR4sNv3v27w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Fri 3 Jun 2022, 21:23 G. Branden Robinson, <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> At 2022-06-03T16:00:15-0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> > Recently a situation has arisen that compromises some of these principles
> > and thus the entire status of the project, creating consternation among
> > many users and contributors.
>
> I wonder if that issue would be the one referred to here.
>
> https://twitter.com/the_aiju/status/1526921795139514368
>
> (I understand if Clem doesn't want to directly answer that.)
>
> It's probably impolitic to reference that matter, and if I'm right
> that's no doubt why reference to same was omitted from the announcement
> email.  It is traditional for such statements to be high-minded even if
> they wouldn't be necessary but for the rather low conduct that compels
> their issue in response.
>
> The above situation seems similar to others we've seen before.  It's
> probably even more impolitic to note that in the Debian Project, this
> sort of licensing shenangians would be referred to as "pulling a Jörg
> Schilling"[1].
>

This stuck a chord for me this evening. I completely understand why such a
saying would come into being, having watched things like cdrecord as a
young person - I totally get the view on licenses here. But I had a chance
to work with Jörg, if only tangentially, on a project and found him to be
warm, engaging, brilliant and overall quite pleasant. I was in a unique
position to connect Jörg and Henry (yes, that Henry) to talk about some old
Unix arcana and it was magic to witness. I hope that in addition to Jörg's
eccentricities people also remember how neat he was as a person. He was a
brilliant mind.

Thanks
-Ben


> I expect that time will soon tell whether an even better term would be
> "committing an XFree86".
>
> On a positive note, I'd like to express my thanks to the SIMH
> contributors past and present for making it straightforward to verify
> the behavior Unix V7 troff in my development work on groff.
>
> If Open SIMH remains dedicated to software freedom in the GNU and DFSG
> senses I expect it will enjoy overwhelming support.
>
> Cheers,
> Branden
>
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/195167/
>

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2022-06-03 20:00     ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2022-06-03 20:12       ` [TUHS] " Blake McBride
2022-06-03 20:23       ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-06-03 21:06         ` Clem Cole
2022-06-03 21:20           ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-06-03 21:32             ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-03 21:34               ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-06-03 21:37                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-03 21:36               ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-06-03 21:40                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-03 22:16                   ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-06-03 22:30                     ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-03 22:52                       ` Warner Losh
2022-06-03 23:48                         ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-04  0:10                           ` Warner Losh
2022-06-04  1:05                             ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-04  1:46                               ` David Arnold
2022-06-06  0:32                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-06  0:47                                 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-06  1:17                                   ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-06  1:02                                 ` Warner Losh
2022-06-06  1:09                                 ` Dan Cross
2022-06-06  1:15                                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-06  1:40                                   ` Dan Cross
2022-06-06  2:36                                     ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-06 12:43                                       ` Dan Cross
2022-06-06 13:41                                         ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-06 14:27                                           ` Blake McBride
2022-06-06 14:33                                             ` Steve Nickolas
2022-06-06 14:53                                     ` Henry Bent
2022-06-06 23:28                                       ` David Arnold
2022-06-07 14:30                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-07 15:08                                       ` Dan Cross
2022-06-07 15:25                                         ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-07 16:03                                           ` Will Senn
2022-06-07 16:38                                             ` Warner Losh
2022-06-07 16:45                                               ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-07 16:57                                                 ` Warner Losh
2022-06-07 17:05                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-07 16:46                                               ` Blake McBride
2022-06-07 17:26                                                 ` Paul Winalski
2022-06-07 20:09                                                   ` Blake McBride
2022-06-07 17:00                                               ` Paul Winalski
2022-06-07 23:41                                                 ` [TUHS] " Chris Hanson
2022-06-07 15:55                                         ` [TUHS] Re: Fwd: " Richard Salz
2022-06-03 23:56                         ` David Arnold
2022-06-04  0:30                           ` Yeechang Lee
2022-06-04  1:03                             ` Adam Thornton
2022-06-03 22:33                     ` Warner Losh
2022-06-03 22:40                       ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2022-06-03 22:56                         ` Warner Losh
2022-06-03 22:26               ` Warner Losh
2022-06-03 22:19             ` Warner Losh
2022-06-03 21:35         ` Ben Walton [this message]
2022-06-03 20:52       ` Will Senn
2022-06-03 21:06         ` [TUHS] " Adam Thornton
2022-06-04  9:09           ` Ralph Corderoy
2022-06-04  2:59 [TUHS] Re: Fwd: " Bakul Shah

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